Trevor The Toad --

lol, I think that Trevor may not be an animagus, but he might be on something important when they're looking for him and actually find him, or just something like that...

Trevor important??! Well.. maybe *unconvinced eyebrow frown*. Is there any clue to how much younger Regulus is to Sirius? I'm just wondering, if they were at school together, Reggie might have got the idea about -and the way to become- an animagus from his big bro. but why is Reggie looking for more Horcruxes as a toad? Has he got stuck? Maybe the potion he drank (if it WAS him) to get the locket horcrux, doesn't kill you but eventually turns you into a toad.

If he is an animagus on the prowl for horcruxes, he's not doing a very good job

OHHHH, I've just thought, Regulus can't be alive 'cause then Harry couldn't have inherited the Black house!
Man, I am so clever when I don't think


Funny thing about that 'h.ell' to 'heck' shinanigans. I remember taking issue with 'the powers that be' when it first happened to me. I reckon it's a bit of an ethnocentric slur 'cause the only time I've heard the word 'heck' was in Peanuts comics.

Well, we knew Regulus was dead because his brother said
that he was murdered by one of Voldemort's little friends.
"GinnyWeasleyRocks" (above) did not mention him.
Can we drop that whole Regulus idea in this thread?
I still believe Trevor could be important, I just don't know how..



Give her heck from us, Peeves!
(Just testing. After all this, one would think the
management would eventually find a way to let it go.)

Yeah you're probably right and this isn't relevant but I can't help think that the mention of Regulus and his death were planted and then so quickly passed over by Jo AND Sirius, that it has gotta mean something. The point is, Sirius ASSUMES that Reggie was killed by Deatheaters 'cause he was a Deatheater on the run (for some mysterious reason...) but what if he wasn't??
What's wrong with the 'Reggie stole the horcrux and died soon after (as the note said he would) because of the potion he had to drink' theory???? Rather than the 'Sirius said he was killed' theory?
I reckon the latter is pretty lame by comparison

"I still believe Trevor could be important, I just don't know how.."
OK *even higher and therefore more unconvinced eyebrow lift* If Trev isn't animagus-Reg who then?
If not an animagus at all, what then?
If a 'magical' toad... why?? What's he after and, more to the point WHO is he working for??*manical eye tic that makes the eyebrows throw themselves about like pro wrestles- but more convincingly*

I agree that Nev's gonna make a stand and get the revenge he wants but I dunno about castng Trev in a heroic role.





Just checking too: heck, heck, heck, hello ,heck.o , heck o, hel lo, hellsbells, ... how'd it go?? :P

Could be. I don't really care much whether he was killed by one Voldemort's little friends or by his potion. Either way, he was RAB.

But wait --
If he drank the potion, why was it still there when Harry and Dumbledore arrived?
Also, if he was brilliant enough to replace the potion, he should have brilliant enough to find an antidote.

Could be. I don't really care much whether he was killed by one Voldemort's little friends or by his potion. Either way, he was RAB.

But wait --
If he drank the potion, why was it still there when Harry and Dumbledore arrived?
Also, if he was brilliant enough to replace the potion, he should have brilliant enough to find an antidote.
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Wrestling eyebrows make me laugh

mate, I'm one of the 'Trev's a bit of comic relief' people. I don't think he's looking for anything but a good time with the girlie toads in the lake.
I DNO'T think he's an animangus-Reggie though because if Reggie was alive:
#1 Harry wouldn't have been able to inherit the house (This is by FAR te most convincing argument. -Couldn't help put that bit in)
#2 ... umm...What is it you said??... Ohh yeah: "Sirius said he was dead" (My Goodness!! You ARE right, I AM a smart azz! :P) lol

I reckon's reggie's RAB too.... It's hard to trust our Jo though.... ??

I presumed the potion refilled when the visitor left. Dunno where I got this from but I just pictured it slowly refilling as the visitors to the horcrux left.. Don't know... I suppose I assumed that Voldy had made safeguards for it refilling if and when he chose to come and check everything was Ok... don't know now...
None of that was in the least bit helpful to the discussion but... you've got me wondering ..
Just to clarify, as my thoughts go reeling, you're suggesting that it had to be a powerful wizard to refill the potion over the fake horcrux and that, if they hadn't, they fake would just be lying there without poison cover. Is that right?
I gotta think about this one

Hold on ya'll i have lots to say so strap in its gonna be a long ride.......Ok in book 1 when Hagrid and Harry are out shopping for school supplies, Hagrid says he is buying Harry a birthday present. He says he'll buy and animal for him due to the fact that he is an animal lover. A realistic gift... Hagrid notes that he hates cats cause he is allergic to them, and that toads "aree out of fashion" (used to be in fashoin a few years ago), therefore he buys Harry an owl. Ok why do I tell this story? Becuase I think it is relevant to the Trevor story.


1. Neville is from the begining a clumsy out of stlye out of touch young student. Harry is the biggest thing, hes cool and popualr. Neville has an old out of "fashion" toad and Harry ahs a owl, not just any owl a snowy white a very rare one.

2.Neville is, now that we know, the only other child that could have been mentioned in the prophecy. Neville is exactly the opposite of Harry. he was raised by wizards but was thought to be a squib. Harry on the other had was raised by muggles in fear that he may be a wizard.

2. Everyone expects "great" things from Harry. They expect nothing from Neville, just getting into Hogwarts was amazing to them.

3. No one knows why Neville got into Gryffindor, he is clumsy and not too brave. But he does slowy grow into himself. (stands up to Harry, Hermoine and Ron in book 1 and later joins the DA and shows his true colors at the ministry). But Harry is immediatly a success. Even when everyone thinks he is the "heir" or that he put his name in the goblet he is still famous Harry Potter. People expect great things from him.

4. Neville is almost the better character, he comes up from the very bottom, he is the one that looses his frog, that can't do the most basic spells, and potions class..... thats a laugh. He has no confidence in himself because no one has confidence in him. He must build himself up from the very bottom. Harry on the other hand has always been trusted, he has always been thought to do well. From the begining Harry was expected to do great things, and Neville wasn't expected to do anything. Yet both sets of parents were in the order, both sets of parents were powerful opposers of Voldie and both parents lost their lives protecting what they held dear. And like Harry said it might be better to die then to be tortured to the point of madness, to not know who you are or recognize your child, your mother....its almost like Neville has the hardest life and the hardest path to his destiny.

Okay I'm done for now. Sorry I tend to ramble.

~Artemisia

Ok, so you are saying that Trevor is just a symbol?

Yeah. Sorry Artemisia, I don't get what you're saying either. I get the 'success/ failure' dichotomy and the 'prince/frog' analogy but I still don;t understand what we're meant to 'get' from that ???

ps. I was reading about your name. Brillant !

What/who is/was Artemisia Saggio?

Still waiting for clarification on that post about Neville.

While I'm waiting...

I've always suspected that Neville was more than he seemed.
I also wonder about his Gran: She's supposed to be such a smart cookie -- Is she really dumb enough to not realize that she is killing his self-confidence, or is it deliberate?
Could she know something and want to protect Neville? Or could she just be generally worried that he'll follow in his parents foot steps? If the whole world, including Neville, believes that he's nearly a squib, maybe he'll live longer.
The Dursleys, for their own reasons, wanted to crush the magic out of Harry, but they're not too bright.
Just idle thoughts. I have no fancy clues to back it up.