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potter dog: i think that jk enforced snape being trustworthy to make it more effective when he killed dumbledore. but ...

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Old 07-25-2005, 06:16 PM
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potter dog: i think that jk enforced snape being trustworthy to make it more effective when he killed dumbledore. but i was counting on snape turning evil again in the 7th book i knew he had evil intentions in him but i wasn't expecting do kill so early. but did he kill for voldy???? or did he kill for himself???
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Old 07-28-2005, 03:06 PM
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Snape is not a Death Eater. When Harry chased him out onto the grounds, he tried every spell he could to kill Snape. But, becuse Snape is an accomplished Aculment, Harry couldn't so much as scratch him. On the other hand, Snape could very easily have killed Harry at that moment. He had the means and opportunity. I mean, he just killed Dumbledor!

Snape must have told Dumbledor about his unbreakable vow to Bellatrix and when the moment came, Snape and Dumbledor had that "connection" between them... I forgot how J.K.R. worded it. Essentially a look informed Snape of what he HAD to do.

Anyway, I think "Snivelis" Snape tries to hard at being evil to really be evil.
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by cbraeburn@Jul 28 2005, 04:06 PM
Snape is not a Death Eater.* When Harry chased him out onto the grounds, he tried every spell he could to kill Snape.* But, becuse Snape is an accomplished Aculment, Harry couldn't so much as scratch him.* On the other hand, Snape could very easily have killed Harry at that moment.* He had the means and opportunity.* I mean, he just killed Dumbledor!

Snape must have told Dumbledor about his unbreakable vow to Bellatrix and when the moment came, Snape and Dumbledor had that "connection" between them... I forgot how J.K.R. worded it.* Essentially a look informed Snape of what he HAD to do.

Anyway, I think "Snivelis" Snape tries to hard at being evil to really be evil.
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[b][i][font=Arial][color=green]Totaly behind you on this one,Dumbledore's words where:"Severus.........Please".He was not pleading for his life but for Snape to do qhat he had to.Remember Hagrid said that when he overheard them talking Dumbledore was telling Snape he expected him to do it.Let's not forget that Dumbledore always put himself in last place when it came to tha well been' of others.Naturally I would think he would be willing to sacrifice his life in order to save Draco and Snape.Also,like someone mentioned Dumbledore was a force to be reckond with even without his wand.Remember in H P and T O T P he took out 4 members of the Ministry without sayin' a single word.And when he appeard at the ministry in the end of that book all the Death Eaters ran for for there lives as soon as they saw him so I think even if he was injured and a little weak he still could have dealt with Draco Malfoy who also was unwilling to kill him.
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Interesting thoughts.
All of the above.
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:18 PM
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Yeah, if Dumbledore was pleading for his life, wouldn't he have finished his sentence eg. "Severus....please...don't do it..."
Dumbledore had seen the doubts about killing him in Snapes mind and had to ask him again to follow through with their plan, whatever that might be.
The only thing that doesn't support this theory is that Snape was looking at Dumbledore with hatred.
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:54 AM
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Yeah, if Dumbledore was pleading for his life, wouldn't he have finished his sentence eg. "Severus....please...don't do it..."
Dumbledore had seen the doubts about killing him in Snapes mind and had to ask him again to follow through with their plan, whatever that might be.
The only thing that doesn't support this theory is that Snape was looking at Dumbledore with hatred.
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Don't forget Snape must be a very good actor, either he is a death eater and his a good enough actor to fool Dumbledore for 15 years or his such a good actor he can fool Voldemort. I don't thing the hatred face is important he could have been acting.

I think Dumbledore won't come back because leaving Harry alone mekes it even more interesting, but I'm not sure about snape, he's a bit to nasty to be good.

Also Dumbledore knew that no DADA teacher would last more than a year, then why place snape there?, maybe he knew that it would be his last year. Something smells fishy.

Anyway I should stop reading this stuff because it makes me so curious, I just can't wait for Book 7
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Old 08-05-2005, 03:38 PM
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Look at this excerpts af an Interview with JKR:

MA: OK, big big big book six question. Is Snape evil?

JKR: [Almost laughing] Well, you've read the book, what do you think?

ES: She's trying to make you say it categorically.

MA: Well, there are conspiracy theorists, and there are people who will claim -

JKR: Cling to some desperate hope [laughter] -



And last, but not least:

ES: Was Dumbledore planning to die?

JKR: [Pause.] Do you think that's going to be the big theory?

MA & ES: Yes. It’ll be a big theory.

JKR: [Pause.] Well, I don't want to shoot that one down. [A little laughter.] I have to give people hope.

MA: It goes back to the question of whether Snape is a double-double-double-triple-

JKR: [Laughs] Double-double-quadruple-to-the-power-of - yeah.

MA: …whether this had been planned, and since Dumbledore had this knowledge of Draco the whole year, had they had a discussion that said, "Should this happen, you have to act as if it is entirely your intention to just walk forward and kill me, because if you don't, Draco will die, the Unbreakable Vow, you'll die," and so on —

JKR: No, I see that, and yeah, I follow your line there. I can't — I mean, obviously, there are lines of speculation I don't want to shut down. Generally speaking, I shut down those lines of speculation that are plain unprofitable. Even with the shippers. God bless them, but they had a lot of fun with it. It's when people get really off the wall — it's when people devote hours of their time to proving that Snape is a vampire that I feel it's time to step in, because there's really nothing in the canon that supports that.
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Well I feel we have all coverd this subject very well and not much more to add, all that's left is for everyone to draw their own conclusion.
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Snape is not a Death Eater. When Harry chased him out onto the grounds, he tried every spell he could to kill Snape. But, becuse Snape is an accomplished Aculment, Harry couldn't so much as scratch him. On the other hand, Snape could very easily have killed Harry at that moment. He had the means and opportunity. I mean, he just killed Dumbledor!

Snape must have told Dumbledor about his unbreakable vow to Bellatrix and when the moment came, Snape and Dumbledor had that "connection" between them... I forgot how J.K.R. worded it. Essentially a look informed Snape of what he HAD to do.

Anyway, I think "Snivelis" Snape tries to hard at being evil to really be evil.
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This doesn't really prove anything because, if you remember, Snape says, "No!...Have you forgotten our orders? Potter belongs to the Dark Lord -- we are to leave him!Go!Go!" I think this shows that the only reason he did not kill Potter was because Voldemort didn't want him to
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Old 11-14-2005, 11:49 AM
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I think dumbeldore knows only Harry can kill voldemort so he died to give Harry that incentive to seek Voldemort out.
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