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im with you on that one ally, because jkr has said that the last word of the seventh book is '...

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Old 01-07-2007, 05:01 AM
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im with you on that one ally, because jkr has said that the last word of the seventh book is 'scar', so it could maybe end with "and harry came back, minus the scar" or words to that effect.
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Old 01-07-2007, 07:31 AM
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No i believe the dementors left Azkaban and supposedly joined Voldemort, and Azkaban is a prison it dosent "control" the dementors. [/b]
I don't believe anyone "controls" the dementors, any more than any one person can "control" the humans. They can be employed, they can form an alliance, but I believe they are intelligent individuals with individual choice, like us.
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Old 01-07-2007, 07:43 AM
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well thats sorta what i meant. They are with voldemort though arnt they? I mean theyve joind up with him or somthing and left Azkaban.
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But maybe not ALL of them.
They could have groups and individuals who make their own, different choices.
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I just read an article where they had mentioned the same thing. They explained that J.K. uses very specific words on purpose. Now here are some copying and pasting from that site.

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"You can speak Parseltongue, Harry," said Dumbledore calmly, "because Lord Voldemort -- who is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin -- can speak Parseltongue. Unless I'm much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I'm sure ..." "Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?" Harry said, thunderstruck. "It certainly seems so." (CoS pg. 332/245)


In the context of the second book, as readers we assumed they meant this in a general, unspecified way. But now that we've learned what horcruxes are, literally a bit of a person's immortal soul that is placed in a container for access later, "Voldemort put a bit of himself in me" certainly sounds just like what a horcrux is, doesn't it?

And although we would tend to assume horcruxes are inanimate objects like rings, lockets and cups, Dumbledore himself suggests in Half-Blood Prince that the snake Nagini is very possibly a horcrux. So, its possible for a horcrux to be in a person, like Harry.

Working back from this assumption, let's look at the other clues.

In the first book, Hagrid tells Harry:

"Never wondered how you got that mark on yer forehead? That was no ordinary cut. Thats what yeh get when a powerful evil curse touches yeh." (SS/PS pg. 55/45)

Once again, notice the words. "A powerful evil curse". That pretty much describes horcruxes again, doesn't it? In Half-Blood Prince, the horcrux is described as the most evil of any magic, so evil that its very mention is banned in Hogwarts.

From the very first book we were shown that Harry was a parseltongue (although we didn't know right away what it was called), and we were also shown that there was a connection between Harry and Voldemort via Harry's scar. In the first book his scar hurts when he looks at Quirrel, we only learn at the end of the book that it was actually hurting because Voldemort was in Quirrel's head at the time. As the books progress, this connection culminates in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, as we learn that, via the scar, both Harry and Voldemort can tell what the other is feeling.

During the course of the book, we see steps being taken to minimize the effects of this connection (Harry taking Occlumency lessons, Dumbledore avoiding his gaze). But we're never given a good, specific explanation for why Harry's scar could cause this psychic connection between them. Physically having a piece of Voldemort's soul in him would certainly explain this very nicely, wouldn't it?

There is so much that is not known about the events at Godrics Hollow on the night of Halloween, 1981. All we know is that, because of Lily's sacrifice, Voldemort's Avada Kedavra curse intended for Harry rebounded back onto Voldemort himself, leaving him almost dead. We know that, as part of the process of making a horcrux, it is necessary to commit a murder. Voldemort entered James and Lily's house intending to murder them that night. What if he was already planning on making a horcrux that night, but because of the unexpected rebounding of his Avada Kedavra curse onto himself, he inadvertently and accidentally ended up putting a bit of his soul into Harry?
The ultimate question is, why is Harry "The Boy Who Lived"? We surmise it was Lily's love that caused Voldemort's Avada Kedavra to rebound onto himself, but what actually allowed Harry to live through it with only a scar to show for it, when Voldemort was almost killed by it?

We know that a horcrux will prevent the horcrux's maker from dieing. Is it possible that the bit of Voldemort's soul in Harry's head is what actually allowed him to survive the attack that no wizard had ever survived before?

And here's the part I don't like thinking about. The prophecy says "neither can live while the other survives". It would seem that Harry is safe, because Voldemort would never kill Harry, if Harry is his last remaining horcrux. But, we know Harry must destroy all the horcruxes before he can kill Voldemort. How can he destroy all the horcruxes when he's one of them himself? It certainly looks like Harry must die, but if he's the only one the prophecy says can kill Voldemort, how can he do that if he, himself, has to die first?

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I Hope it is okay that I copied it from another site but I did keep it in quotes since none of the quoted material is me speaking. After reading it though it sure does make sense. That is why I always believe that the book would end with Harry killing Voldemorte then he himself would die because they are connected.
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Ever since I read the 6th book and heard of the horcruxes one thought in my mind was what if harry's scar is a horcrux. This is how i look at it when voldemort did the curse it was deflected because of his mothers love but remember how they say in the books that his scar connects them. Well maybe it connects them because part of his soul is in harry. Meaning that harry's lightning bolt scar is a horcrux. Now when I was thinking of this I realized that when u have a horcrux u have to get rid of it and the prophecy said nether can live while the other survives meaning that maybe the only way to kill voldemort is fot harry to kill the last horcrux which would be himself. Now i remember jk rowling said that she will revive one character now maybe that character is harry since when he killed the horcrux he took away voldemorts life but not his own so when he came back the scar wasnt there anymore. Tell me what u think I 'd really like to hear some feedback and maybe some other theories you are thinking because i think this scar has more to it then just being a scar
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Ipersonaly think that the scar is a remnant of the love Lilly had for harry he is not a horcrux
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Ever since I read the 6th book and heard of the horcruxes one thought in my mind was what if harry's scar is a horcrux. This is how i look at it when voldemort did the curse it was deflected because of his mothers love but remember how they say in the books that his scar connects them. Well maybe it connects them because part of his soul is in harry. Meaning that harry's lightning bolt scar is a horcrux. Now when I was thinking of this I realized that when u have a horcrux u have to get rid of it and the prophecy said nether can live while the other survives meaning that maybe the only way to kill voldemort is fot harry to kill the last horcrux which would be himself. Now i remember jk rowling said that she will revive one character now maybe that character is harry since when he killed the horcrux he took away voldemorts life but not his own so when he came back the scar wasnt there anymore. Tell me what u think I 'd really like to hear some feedback and maybe some other theories you are thinking because i think this scar has more to it then just being a scar
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Ipersonaly think that the scar is a remnant of the love Lilly had for harry he is not a horcrux
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yes but if it was a scar of lily's love then why does harry hear all voldemort's thoughts and actions
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I so agree!!! That would be so cool!! But then Harry has to die !!! Well it is the last book so if it's the end of the series then it might as well be the end of Harry's life( I hope not!! I will not be happy!!!!!! )
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Good theary but if you read rhe books you would know that to make a horcruex it is a very percice spell not just some mistake
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But the spell voldemort used was very powerful so anything's possible
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