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i have to agree that the description of Dumbledore's death and funeral do indicate the possibility that DD is ...

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Old 07-15-2006, 02:56 AM
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i have to agree that the description of Dumbledore's death and funeral do indicate the possibility that DD is either still alive or that Rowling's going to give him a resurrection. However, Harry needs to believe that he's dead and we are sort of told why in there: so he won't hide behind someone when it comes to facing Voldemort.
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:07 AM
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Thats right dumbledore knows that it has to be harry that defeats voldemort and if dumbledore is there harry will look to him for all the answers and wont get anything done himself.
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:14 AM
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Eventually. Maybe when he practices his Occlumency.
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He does'nt take Occlumency anymore,remember?
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Old 07-15-2006, 09:26 PM
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Dumbledore knows that...if dumbledore is there harry will look to him for all the answers and wont get anything done himself. [/b]
I wish people would stop saying this.
When has Harry ever hidden behind anyone?
Dumbledore knows better.
He used the freezing charm on the tower to hold Harry back.
He used the statue in the Ministry atrium to hold Harry back.


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...He doesn't take Occlumency anymore, remember? [/b]
Harry can still start practicing again and find a new teacher. He needs to smarten up about a few things. Occlumency is one of them
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:14 AM
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i realize that harry dosent hide behind people but he does listen to dumbledore and dumbledore if he remains where he was he might have worried to much for harry and forbidden him to fight. Harry waited for dumbledore to find the horcruxes, maybe dumbledore wants harry to find the rest alone. If dumbledore had not been "killed" harry probably would have waited for him to find the horcruxes. I never said he hid behind people (*but you cant say without the propper motivations he dosent work to his fullest potential)


*im not sure exactly if i can prove this nor what it actually means it could have different meaning than what i thought but i believe in it


And harry really isnt that good at occulemency is he? He may not want to practice.... he should it may help but he probably dosent see why he needs it anymore.
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:15 PM
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i realize that harry dosent hide behind people but he does listen to dumbledore and dumbledore if he remains where he was he might have worried to much for harry and forbidden him to fight. Harry waited for dumbledore to find the horcruxes, maybe dumbledore wants harry to find the rest alone. If dumbledore had not been "killed" harry probably would have waited for him to find the horcruxes. I never said he hid behind people (*but you cant say without the propper motivations he dosent work to his fullest potential)


*im not sure exactly if i can prove this nor what it actually means it could have different meaning than what i thought but i believe in it [/b]
Does it really matter what Harry would have done? The point is, he knows he's got to find the rest of the Horcruxes. Dumbledore was there to get Harry started, but I think Harry knows he's the one who's got to do it in the end.


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And harry really isnt that good at occulemency is he? He may not want to practice.... he should it may help but he probably dosent see why he needs it anymore.
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If Harry was smart, he'd continue with Occlumency. He should see why he needs it, because it was because of his lack of practice that Sirius is dead.
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:31 PM
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That's true. Harry also wouldn't have had to run off and hide the HBP's book if he could have been better at occlumency. lol He needs to learn.

I think the whole D.A. should learn, ya kno. And if not at least Ron and Hermione. lol
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Old 07-21-2006, 01:44 PM
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And harry really isnt that good at occulemency is he? He may not want to practice.... he should it may help but he probably dosent see why he needs it anymore.
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I think after fighting Snape he will need to realize he needs to learn it. Snape deflected everything! We all know that Voldemort will be the same easily read Harry's mind and know what he is going to be doing as he does it. I think its very important that he learns it more and get much better at it.

I do like the idea of the D.A. learning it -- they all may need it in the end.
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I don't even know if I can put this into words right now, because the idea just struck me, but here's for trying, anyway. . .

I used to think that Sirius was dead, and Dumbledore is alive.
Now I'm thinking, what if neither of them are dead?
I think maybe Dumbledore just needs Harry to think that so that Harry will have the anger he needs to kill Voldemort.

Maybe Sirius doesn't have to be alive for this theory to be true, but it might explain why Dumbledore wanted Snape to "kill" him so badly.

I know it might not make a whole lot of sense at this point...oh well.
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Yes, some clarification would be helpful. I don't think you really fully explained why you think Sirius is alive.
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Well, I don't think that he is definitely alive. . .it's just that this new perspective has me saying, "Why not?"
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where does the veil lead? Everyone that night apart from Harry knew what it was? Will it be in book 7 ?
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Here is something possibly related to the veil that I thought to be interesting.
It's from Rowling's "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them:"

Lethifold
In appearance, a Lethifold is similar to a black cloak approximately half an inch (13 mm) thick, somewhat thicker if it has recently digested a victim. A Lethifold is carnivorous, gliding along the ground and possibly other surfaces in an unknown mode of locomotion in search of prey to suffocate and digest. The only reported prey is humans (including wizards), and the only known spell capable of repelling a Lethifold is the Patronus Charm. As it generally attacks sleeping victims, however, few manage to actually apply this knowledge. The first recording of a Lethifold was by the Wizard Flavius Belby. With its cloaklike appearance and susceptiblity to the Patronus Charm, a Lethifold is similar to the Dementor, but unlikely to be actually related to it in the biological sense because, as Rowling has stated, dementors do not reproduce biologically.

The Lethifold is a mercifully rare denizen of the tropics, and has yet to appear in the main novels.

These creatures are very similar to cloakers from Advanced Dungeons and Dragons which look like cloaks and attempt to consume the people who wear them.

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