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I've just finished reading Chapter Twenty-Three (Horcruxes) and in just that one chapter, it has everything we need ...

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I've just finished reading Chapter Twenty-Three (Horcruxes) and in just that one chapter, it has everything we need to know and everything that we've been guessing. First of all, it disproves that Harry is a horcrux. Secondly, here is all that it tells us:
1st Horcrux: Riddle's Diary-Destroyed
2nd Horcrux: Marvolo's Ring-Destroyed
3rd Horcrux: Slytherin's Locket-ACTUAL Location Unknown
4th Horcrux: Helga Hufflepuff's Cup-Location Unknown
5th Horcrux: Either a Ravenclaw or Gryffindor possession-Unknown
6th Horcrux: Nagini-N/Dead and w/Voldemort
7th Horcrux: Voldemort-Being used for Voldemort's body

On the fifth Horcrux, Dumbledore believes that it has to be a Ravenclaw possession because the only know Gryffindor possession is in his office and could have only been shown from a true Gryffindor, but our real problem is where all these things lye. The location of the diary was with the Lucius, and the location of the ring was in the Gaunt's old house, and the location of the locket was in the cave where young Voldemort lured two fellow orphans once. So all the locations where Voldemort chose to put his Horcruxes have to do with his past, that's why I think that one of the locations for one of the Horcruxes is the actual orphanage. And all of the things that the horcruxes are stored in are trophies that Voldemort's gotten from things he's done, so in order to find the fifth horcrux, Harry has to find a memory of something horrible that Voldemort's done and then something of Ravenclaw's goes missing, that's how DUmbledore found the other horcruxes. lol, That's why he really needs Hermione and Ron with him, they'll know things about old wizards. So, where do you think the Horcruxes will be, and what will be the fifth Horcrux?
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I've just finished reading Chapter Twenty-Three (Horcruxes) and in just that one chapter, it has everything we need to know and everything that we've been guessing. First of all, it disproves that Harry is a horcrux. Secondly, here is all that it tells us:
1st Horcrux: Riddle's Diary-Destroyed
2nd Horcrux: Marvolo's Ring-Destroyed
3rd Horcrux: Slytherin's Locket-ACTUAL Location Unknown
4th Horcrux: Helga Hufflepuff's Cup-Location Unknown
5th Horcrux: Either a Ravenclaw or Gryffindor possession-Unknown
6th Horcrux: Nagini-N/Dead and w/Voldemort
7th Horcrux: Voldemort-Being used for Voldemort's body

On the fifth Horcrux, Dumbledore believes that it has to be a Ravenclaw possession because the only know Gryffindor possession is in his office and could have only been shown from a true Gryffindor, but our real problem is where all these things lye. The location of the diary was with the Lucius, and the location of the ring was in the Gaunt's old house, and the location of the locket was in the cave where young Voldemort lured two fellow orphans once. So all the locations where Voldemort chose to put his Horcruxes have to do with his past, that's why I think that one of the locations for one of the Horcruxes is the actual orphanage. And all of the things that the horcruxes are stored in are trophies that Voldemort's gotten from things he's done, so in order to find the fifth horcrux, Harry has to find a memory of something horrible that Voldemort's done and then something of Ravenclaw's goes missing, that's how DUmbledore found the other horcruxes. lol, That's why he really needs Hermione and Ron with him, they'll know things about old wizards. So, where do you think the Horcruxes will be, and what will be the fifth Horcrux?
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Even Dumby said he was wrong sometimes....nothing factual say's there are 6 cruxes now is their?
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Yeah there is, and it's actually seven horcruxes. In the memory from Slughorn when young Voldemort asks about horcruxes, he says that since seven is most powerful number in magic (or something like that) if it were possible to have seven-there it shows us that Voldemort seems to partial to seven. And if he had done more than seven, then he would look way worst than he already does, something else Dumbledore explains. And yes, he does say that even he isn't right ALL the time, BUT with all that he says, there is an amazing amount of proof, and if you think about it, it all adds up!
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I still believe that the fifth horcrux is Riddle's trophy -- the one Ron barfed on.

It fits for a lot of little reasons.

My main reason is that I don't think Jo will introduce any more new stuff than
is absolutely necessary. She's spent a really, really long time setting up this
elaborate series of dominoes, and I think that in the last book she will just tap
that last domino, sit back and watch it happen.
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I know what you mean, I expect her to just make the last book where he decides to go and find the horcruxes, destroy them, and face off with Voldemort. That's really all there's left to do,
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I know what you mean, I expect her to just make the last book where he decides to go and find the horcruxes, destroy them, and face off with Voldemort. That's really all there's left to do,
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NO NO NO It never said "they're is 7 Cruxes...actually 6 the seventh is still in Voldy. It only said Voldy would have prefered that many because 7 is the most powerful number...it never say's definite that there are 7 oh I mean 6.
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NO NO NO It never said "they're is 7 Cruxes...actually 6 the seventh is still in Voldy. It only said Voldy would have prefered that many because 7 is the most powerful number...it never say's definite that there are 7 oh I mean 6. [/b]
You're right.

But I think most of us are happy with things as they are.

Also, I believe the whole concept is limited.
I don't think he kept one-seventh of his soul.
I think he has a half of a half of a half of a half of a half of a half of a half.
Not much to work with.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Professor_Jalesi @ Apr 24 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]24547[/snapback]
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NO NO NO It never said "they're is 7 Cruxes...actually 6 the seventh is still in Voldy. It only said Voldy would have prefered that many because 7 is the most powerful number...it never say's definite that there are 7 oh I mean 6. [/b]
You're right.

But I think most of us are happy with things as they are.

Also, I believe the whole concept is limited.
I don't think he kept one-seventh of his soul.
I think he has a half of a half of a half of a half of a half of a half of a half.
Not much to work with.
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Wait, what?
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Well I still have a feeling there aren't 4 Cruxes left. For Harry to find them all in would book would be going to quick. Dumby kept saying in HBP that he was guessing and that sometimes even he's wrong.

Is murdering a memory considered murder.....as in Tom Riddles diary? It had a soul or at least part of one. And Harry knowingly killed that crux ....now to think about it so did Dumby with Marvolo's ring.

Is knowingly destroying a Horacrux ..murder the part of soul?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Professor_Jalesi @ Apr 24 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]24547[/snapback]
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NO NO NO It never said "they're is 7 Cruxes...actually 6 the seventh is still in Voldy. It only said Voldy would have prefered that many because 7 is the most powerful number...it never say's definite that there are 7 oh I mean 6. [/b]
You're right.

But I think most of us are happy with things as they are.

Also, I believe the whole concept is limited.
I don't think he kept one-seventh of his soul.
I think he has a half of a half of a half of a half of a half of a half of a half.
Not much to work with.
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Yes, that makes a lot of sense. . .no wonder he's so ugly!
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