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| Year VII: Deathly Hallows Discuss, The Argument at The Restricted Section of the Library forum There is such a big difference between the other times we've seen the killing curse done and the time ... |
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| There is such a big difference between the other times we've seen the killing curse done and the time that Snape "killed" Dumbledore .. Plus, JK has to make him nice! Because .. well because she just has to! |
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| Actually yeah you all might be right! A Nonverbal COULD work while he said AVEDA KEDAVERA cause remember with the cruciatus curse you have to REALL THINK of the person in pain what if its that way with AVEDA KEDAVERA? |
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| [size=4][color=#CC66CC][font=Arial Black] Here's a question dumbledor being a great wizard as he is dont you think he would have some clue to what was going to happen? Could he have been really duped by snape or was he right that snape would be loyal enough to kill him at his request? |
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| Snape Lies to Narcissa and Bellatrix... Twice it may be long but just as important During the meeting that Snape has at his house with Narcissa and Bellatrix in chapter 2, Snape tries to explain to them why he never killed Harry all those years at Hogwarts when he had ample opportunity: "Of course, it became apparent to me very quickly that he had no extraordinary talent at all. He has fought his way out of a number of tight corners by a simple combination of sheer luck and more talented friends. He is mediocre to the last degree..." (HBP pg 31/36) But we know Snape knows this is a lie. We know Snape knows that Harry is a powerful wizard. We know he knows Harry is a parselmouth. We know he knows Harry could conjure a corporeal patronus when he was just 13 years old. We know he knows Harry has stood up to and prevailed against Voldemort five times! But not even one whole page later, Narcissa is crying to Snape she has something she wants to say, but has been forbidden to talk about by Voldemort. Snape immediately replies that she should follow Voldemort's orders, and sister Bellatrix agrees. But Snape appears troubled by the conversation: But Snape had gotten to his feet and strode to the small window, peered through the curtains, and then closed them again with a jerk. He turned around to face Narcissa, frowning. (HBP pg 32/37) What happened to make him jerk the curtains closed all of a sudden and turn back to the women, frowning? Has he had a revelation? It is only at this point that he confides in them that he already knows the plan, that Voldemort has already told him. He's lying again! If he already knew the plan, why would he have taken the position, just one moment earlier, that she should follow Voldemort's law and not speak of it? We know Snape is a powerful Legilimens, we learned that in the Occlumency scenes with Snape and Harry in Order of the Phoenix because of that i think snape is having a plan with dumbledore and he just wants to show the death eaters that he is on voldemort's side If you believe that Snape is acting on Dumbledore's orders to kill him (or possibly just make it look like he killed him, although he'd probably still be hurting him), then Snape's demeanor and Dumbledore's final words take on a whole new meaning. ...somebody else had spoken Snape's name, quite softly. "Severus..." The sound frightened Harry beyond anything he had experienced all evening. For the first time, Dumbledore was pleading. Snape said nothing, but walked forward and pushed Malfoy roughly out of the way. ... Snape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore, and there was revulsion and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his face. "Severus... Please..." (HBP pg 595/556) In that passage the reader is supposed to believe that Snape hates Dumbledore and feels revulsion for him. But to help us understand the real meaning of Snape's feelings of revulsion and hatred, J.K. used almost the exact same words for what Harry was feeling just one chapter previous: "You...you can't stop, Professor," said Harry. "You've got to keep drinking, remember? You told me you had to keep drinking. Here..." Hating himself, repulsed by what he was doing, Harry forced the goblet back toward Dumbledore's mouth ... (HBP pg 571/534) Even though Snape was to kill Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, it must have been something that was still really emotional and difficult for Snape to do, exactly as it was for Harry to make Dumbledore drink the potion. The feeling of revulsion on Snape's face was not for Dumbledore, but the act he knew he had to commit. The hatred was not for Dumbledore, but for what Dumbledore was making him do. And when Dumbledore said, "Severus... Please..." he wasn't begging "please don't". What he was really saying was, "Severus, please kill me, as you promised you would." from that information i think dmbledore is not dead |
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