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| Year VII: Deathly Hallows Discuss, Snape, The Death Stopper at Books: The Restricted Section of the Library forum Buff, I think I over-explained myself. Snape's pride is in his magical expertise, but his bad mood, cruelty, ... |
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| Buff, I think I over-explained myself. Snape's pride is in his magical expertise, but his bad mood, cruelty, and bitter frustration are because no one gives him the credit he feels he deserves. He wants all the credit, all the fame, and all the glory. But I really don't think he's decided yet what he wants to take credit for... if he bides his time and keeps his cover long enough, I think he's betting he'll take all the credit for killing Voldemort ( if that's the final outcome) or he'll take the credit for killing Harry ( if that be the case ). It could be that Snape plans to let Harry kill Voldemort, then Snape will kill Harry and be some kind of hero to both sides of the war. Couldn't get more glory than that, eh? replies welcome |
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| I see what BuffyBuff and Ottery are trying to say, and it makes alot of sense. What really has me questioning why Snape killed Dumbledore, is that when Harry had starting running after him and Snape finally turned around in anger, if he was REALLY against their side, he really could have killed Harry at anytime he wanted, yet he didn't. Very interesting....*rubs chin, deep in thought* |
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2) Maybe I haven’t quoted this one enough -- HP-5, page 622 "Fawkes...swooped low over him. Dumbledore...grasped the phoenix's long golden tail. There was a flash of fire and the pair of them had gone." 3) Dumbledore may have been weak on the night of the “murder,” but the funeral was days later. ======================== Well, I read that interview through at least three times, and found nothing useful. (http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml) You won't. She is not going to give you any more than she already has in the books. She will (and does): A) Clarify things that the book already said, but some people didn't get. Like Harry's choice concerning the prophesy. Dumbledore already explained it, but JKR felt the need to do it again. B) Give background information that might be interesting, but contains no clues. “I'm never going to answer everything that an obsessive fan would want to know in the novels, and the Web site is another way of doing that.” C) Draw people back when they wander too far from reality. Like, are Mrs. Longbottom's gum wrappers significant? Well, yes, to Neville. But no, she is not passing secret messages. “...that's a classic example of, 'Lets just shut that one down,' because it doesn't really lead any where very interesting...” She does not (has not, will not) answer any of the big spoiler questions. Re: Is Snape Evil? “What do YOU think?” “I can't answer that question because it's a spoiler...” Re: Was Dumbledore planning to die? “...there are lines of speculation I don't want to shut down.” “...it's when people devote hours of their time to proving that Snape is a vampire that I feel it's time to step in, because there's really nothing in the canon that supports that.” Re: Was someone else was present in Godrick's Hollow that night? Even her “no comment” is useless. She is not telling us anything. JKR is not going to give us any more than she already has. If anything, she might be tempted to confuse us. She’s having too much fun. “Wishful thinkers?” “Delusional?” She’s just playing with you. Read the books again if you want more clues. ALSO, IF SHE DID NOT ENJOY “MESSING WITH DEATH,” SHE WOULD HAVE “SHUT IT DOWN” BY NOW. It's all there, in the books. We just need to put it all together. I still say that: Harry, Hermione, Ron and Ginny will not die; R.A.B. is Regulus Black and he is completely dead; Riddle's trophy is the mystery horcrux; Snape is a good-guy; and Dumbledore is alive. His actual death would serve no purpose. All that matters is if Voldemort BELIEVES that he is dead. And, since Harry can’t keep a secret to save his life, Dumbledore can’t tell him. Yet. The only thing I got out of that interview was the bit about her editors. The first people she talks to after she finishes a book are Emma, the UK editor, and Arthur, the American editor They both see the new manuscript at the same time. They collaborate, bla, bla, bla, and “...we have arguments as well.” Maybe that's how that line got lost, “He can't kill you if you're already dead.” They just got their wires crossed. They've probably realized the error by now, but to make a big deal about the correction would be telling us too much – It would draw more attention to that line than she meant to. Better to leave it alone. |
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It's not that Snape cares what Harry or any of them think of him, it's just that he knows what he's done and why: "Great personal risk' stuff. I don't think it's a matter of wanting to take credit or be understood it's just...I dunno... incredible dislike of stupidity. Let me try to explain this another way: Childbirth. It was intense but... do-able. But if anyone came up and said "childbirth is easy' I'd have to slap their face. kinda the same thing with Snape. He doesn't need for everyone to know about what a hard job he has; the spying he has done for Dumby, he doesn't want anyone to know anything he has gone through but he does get really, really cranky at anyone, calling him a traitor. Know what I mean??? Psyducky: Really!? You didn't like the interview? I'm very disappointed to hear that. I was looikng forward to disecting it with you - 'disecting' in this instance meaning swinging, with pike, from wild tangent to wild tangent and me coming up with spurius theories for you to make cannon fodder out of- just the way I LOVE it! lol I dunno mate.... I reckon that "can't kill you if you're already dead" line can't be THAT important or they would have made a point of making sure it was in our British/Australian editions. I can't believe they'd leave out a major clue like that. The fact that it's only in the American edition has gotta prove that it was a line the editors couldn't decide on becaiuse it ws too distracting. (Any other reading of the situation would make it totally unfair... and ...I'll sue!) Once again: YAY us for uncovering such a thing!! We've all read the books just as many times as each other and, I am sure, just as thoroughly as each other. I find things to be very clear to me. That does NOT mean that they are obvious to anyone else. That's the wonderous thing about imagination, chat rooms and really well written stories. We have to thank Jo for that, if not for the bloody awful interviews. ps. Dumbledore is dead * pike, perfect dismount* |
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| HeeHee, because you know, we ARE the laziest country in the world! But yeah, I see what ya'll are saying. It makes sense, and gives me things to think on. The thing about the editorial thing intrigued me the most.... |
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| I heard from someone that they think snape and Dumbledore could have traded bodies or are using polyjuice potion or somthing that would make snape be dead and Dumbledore still alive. I dont know whether to agree or disagree. Is it even possble? ![]() |
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