Snape, The Death Stopper

I'm not following.
The only hiding they would need to do is back in time.
Replacing the sleeping Dumbledore at the foot of the tower would have
happened before and during the events at the top of the tower.
He would already be there, on the ground, when the original starts to fall.
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Wait.....I don't see what you're saying either. Because in any case of what you're saying, one Dumbledore will die, right?

P.S. lol, good one, ginevra, but you know JK would never make it that easy!

I'm not ignoring you.
I'm trying to figure out how to explain it.
You need to twist your mind a little, and then it all has to tie back together.
I'll get to it.

Messing with time is dangerous. And even if you went back in time and stopped some horrific event, there are no garauntees of a happy ending. Case in point, harry went back in time to save sirius from from the dementors kiss. BUT, it still did not save him from death. What you expect to change only has a short term effect. The long term is still very unpredictable, and i believe, no deterrent to fate. I think to theory of snape using a time turner is to complicated. It's got to be much simpler. Dumboldore is dead, Snape is on the good side. It is the game and the sacrifice....For both of them.

Ooo, Ooo -- a new idea!!! (This one's old, but it's news to me.)

I also heard a rumor that Aberforth is Albus' twin.

Ok, so how about this --
Through part (or most) of Harry's seventh year, until he's ready
to reveal that he's alive after all, Albus keeps an eye on the town
by taking Aberforth's place at the bar from time to time.

Dumbledore's dead love. I'm sorry but it's true. As I've said before, I don't think our Jo would mess about with death and greiving 'cause it's personal with her -her mum and all.

Still haven't resolved the 'why are those lines in the US edition' thingo. I reckon it was an oversight by US editors. I think they were supposed to take them out because they are too confusing NOT too telling. If they were giving info. away about Dumby, Aberforth, the Orders' past doings etc, the whole world, not just America, would have got them.

There are a few 'time turner' threads on this site if people wanna carry on that line on inquiry. It messes with my head too much to partake of myself. Still, the Dep of Mysteries HAVE got a whole cabinet of the things. They have obviously played with time a fair bit but I don't think the Order or Dumby has -unnatural.

GWR: Ta for the heads-up on the Aberforth is Dumby's brother. We all had our suspicions about that but I never got that smelly clue.

She LOVES to "mess with death."
The reserections of Peter and Barty Jr were the central plots of two books.

I think there's a distinction here because Petigrew and Crouch Jr aren't major characters/ family to us or Jo. I, again, don't think Jo would mess with family like that - she shouldn't!
Another point that just occurred to me is that both Peter and Barty Jr were seen in a good light that only became black with their 'rebirth' into the story. I hope you're not suggesting Dumby was a bad man under the illusion of being good??!!
No. Of course you're not!

If this "they pretend to be dead but then come back for the sake of a plot twist" scenario HAS to be played again, it'll have to be RAB but that would be VERY lame I reckon. I don't think it'll be Dumby. Why should it??? What would that add to the story??



Gone daddy gone
The love has gone away

Why can't someone use the Time Turner to go back and save Lilly James?

(1) It would not have worked back then because, with the altered time line, no one would know of the need to go back to prevent something that never happened.

(2) It would be difficult now, sixteen years later, because whoever does it would be stuck, lurking in the shadows, for sixteen years while normal time catches up with him. No one could sit still and watch all that happened without being tempted to tamper.

Mainly, such tampering would be undesirable because

(3) Voldemort would only try again, and most likely succeed, because Lilly would not always be there to stand in the way.

(4) In the unlikely event that Voldemort gave up and left the Potters alone, Harry would never have received that scar, which is the world's one and only chance of ending this nightmare. Saving James might be theoretically possible, but not worth the risk.

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P.S. On some other thread, I don't remember where, someone asked
why Dumbledore didn't attempt to kill Voldemort in the Ministry atrium (book 5).
Because he knew better. He began suspecting that Voldemort was using
horcruxes in the end of Harry's second year, and by the 5th book he was sure.

And another thing --

In The Half-Blood Prince, Chapter 27, The Lightning Struck Tower, page 594:

“He's not long for this world anyway, if you ask me!” said the lopsided man,
to the accompaniment of his sister's wheezing giggles.
“Look at him – what happened to you then, Dumby?”

“Oh, weaker resistance, slower reflexes, Amycus,” said Dumbledore.
“Old age, in short... One day, perhaps, it will happen to you... if you are lucky...”

“What's that mean, then, what's that mean?” yelled the Death Eater...

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What DOES that mean?
Did the potion really do all that, or was it something more?

Jo has said that the fact that Dumbledore didn't try to kill Voldemort in the duel in the ministry at the end of the 5th, IS really important. Yet again, a Jo clue that is 'really important'!! Ta Jo for the heads up However, if it is 'really important', why? What's Dumby saving Voldemort for?
Is it just that he doesn't want to deny Harry his vengence? That sounds particularly morbid for Dumbledore. It can't be about the prophecy because Dumbledore made it clear that that shouldn't/can't decide anyones' actions. So how about, Voldy is still Tom Riddle and Dumby has taken an oath to protect Hogger's students no matter what, forever??

About the "he doesn't have long for the world anyway...' line, i don't think there is anything profound in killers being able to sense the imminent death of people/prey.