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Year VII: Deathly Hallows Discuss, That Gleam Of Triumph! at Books: The Restricted Section of the Library forum
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I know I've thrown this idea around elsewhere on this site, but I'll toss it in again. We know that the power that the Voldemort knows not is love. Yet, in taking Harry's blood, would not love been included in the transfusion? Yet, I also recognize that by now Voldemort would have realized it...so I don't know. But maybe in taking Harry's blood, with the protection that saved Harry being love, could that protection be what causes Voldemort to falter in his quest to seek only power and immortality? [/b]
OK, let me get this straight in my mind.
Because Voldemort has Harry's blood, and in Harry's blood is the lasting protection his mother left him, which is love, Voldemort might feel a tiny tinge of remorse for what he has done and perhaps falter when the moment comes to kill Harry. Is that right?

That makes sense, but I can't see Voldemort showing any mercy, ever.

And also, remember what Dumbledore was saying about about how Harry's protection would only last while he resided with the Dursley's? That means when he comes of age, he's no longer protected by his mother's love, so that could mean the protection that is in Voldemort from Harry's blood might not work anymore.
Work is the wrong word, though.

Or to put it simply: The love protection from Lily which is in both Voldemort and Harry will be null and void for Harry when he comes of age, but could also be null and void for Voldemort when Harry comes of age.
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Hello??? Sure is empty in here...

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...something about the LOVE thing that causes Voldemort to falter... [/b]
I still think there's something there.
I don't know what. It's still just a vague, developing thought.
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Remember in the movie of the fourth book the returned Voldemort says that after that night when people talked of harry they would only talk of how he begged Voldemort for death and how Voldemort in his mercy granted him that. But that's not in the book - rats!

Then again in the book Lucius Malfoy says Voldemort is merciful to him on page 564 (Bloomsbury edition). So maybe somewhere in him he could be it... I don't know. I'm with those who wonder if the possibly sympathy Harry felt for Voldemort when he realized that Merope wouldn't even keep herself alive for a son who needed her might be a player in the love factor.

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I'm with those who wonder if the possibly sympathy Harry felt for Voldemort when he realized that Merope wouldn't even keep herself alive for a son who needed her might be a player in the love factor.[/b]
In what way?
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Not really sure how that's gonna work. But I can't see Harry using the Avada Kedavra curse or Sectumpsempra spell when he and Voldy have the final showdown.



OK, here's another theory:
Maybe when the protection Dumbledore invoked by sending Harry to live with the Dursleys finishes and assuming that it therefore finishes in Voldemort as well, maybe the fact that Harry knows what it is to have been loved and to love others will give him something that will sustain him. By contrast Voldemort who does not know what it is to love, and we can guess probably hasn't been loved at all during his life, won't have that.

When the prophecy says that the one to vanquish the Dark Lord will have power that the Dark Lord knows not, Dumbledore tells us that power is love, even though Harry wants to say, "Big deal" to it. So, maybe the gleam of triumph is a, "Yep that will work... but not for long."
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It needs to be a big, dramatic, bold, bombshell, revelation. An 'Aha! Now everything makes sense!' reason for Dumbledore having the gleam in his eye. The trouble is, I can't see any evidence for anything other then what's already been suggested.
And Psyduck, with this gleam of triumph, I don't think we'll be able to figure it out. This is another of those Groucho Marx topics.
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Is the protection that his mother gave him and the protection he has while living with the Dursley's connected? Is it ever expressly stated that it is? I thought Dumbledore did something to give Harry that protection with the Dursley's. If they are seperate, that makes a big difference in some of the theories proposed here.

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...something about the LOVE thing that causes Voldemort to falter... [/b]
I still think there's something there.
I don't know what. It's still just a vague, developing thought.
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I'm with ya there. It has to be something to do with that. Specifically what, who knows.
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It's connected, I think. Blood ties. Because Aunt Petunia allowed Harry house room, that has kept him safe because Lily died for Harry. This sealed some ancient piece of magic that Dumbledore cast so as long as he lives at the Dursleys, as long as he returns once a year, he's safe. Until he's seventeen, that is.
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It's connected, I think. Blood ties. Because Aunt Petunia allowed Harry house room, that has kept him safe because Lily died for Harry. This sealed some ancient piece of magic that Dumbledore cast so as long as he lives at the Dursleys, as long as he returns once a year, he's safe. Until he's seventeen, that is.
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I'm not so sure about this, but even if it is the case, simply because you add on more to the protection and that added on part has a time limit, doesn't neccesarily mean the first one is affected that way too.
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