How Many For Real?

Is there really just six horcruxes left? Didn't the whole memory Tom Riddle get destroyed, and wasn't he one of the horcruxes? And didn't one of his horcruxes die the night he tried to kill baby Harry? WHAT ABOUT WHEN HE WAS DEFEATED WHILE HE WAS IN QUIRREL!!!!!?????!!!!

Yes, Riddle's diary was destroyed, as was Slytherin's ring.
So we're looking for the locket, the cup, Nagini
and the ONE Mystery (I say it's Riddle's trophy).

Now that you mention it, why didn't one of the pieces of Voldemort
die the night he tried to kill baby Harry? I almost sort-of thought
of that once while reading, but got distracted by what was happening
and never finished the thought. So, what did he do then? Did he
drift around until he got to one of the horcruxes and took it for for
himself, so that now one of them is empty?
She never did explain how that worked.

I know you know this. I'm just trying to get it right in my head:
When Voldy says "I was ripped from my body" I kinda assumed it meant 'I' equals 'the soul' (what's left of it) was ripped from his body. 'It'/shattered person, went off and lived a weird kinda spectral exsistance (lesser than a ghost because at least they have their dearly departed souls intact), a shadowy nothing with only 2/7ths of his soul. But, this assumes that 'I'='soul' As you very cleverly suggest, what is a 'part of a soul' and, as you ask, does part of it 'detatch' when you murder???
Is the construction of a Horcrux dependant on a murder or on a spell cast afterwards??
What is a soul and what is our relationship with it???
Is a soul our conscience, our morals, or faith, our character/sense of self or even our consciousness???
What is Voldy missing by spliting his soul? He has all his facualties; he can maintain physical form; he can continue to split his soul, so what is a soul do you thnk??? In an HP not a theological sense of course
Why stop at 7?
If Voldy can't feel them after they are split anyway, what's the difference in creating 6 or a 1000 Horcruxes??

I have no idea.
I wish JKR had explained at least a little of it.

K. so the train of thought continues along its merandering path.... please jump on at any time.
Voldy splits his soul and it doesn't appear to have changed his character only his physical appearance; Dumby says he appeared less human as the years went by. Don't know what this says about our relationship between body and soul but that isn't really the issus here. The issues for me is how do you make a horcrux (if it's a matter of a simple, softly spoken spell then I reckon Godric's sword IS a horcrux- this explains Voldy's weird visit to dumby in the headmasters office) , how many can you make (what's to stop Voldy making heaps when he discovers that Harry's out destroying them) and if Voldy tries to make any morewill he end up looking like Nagini?

Psyduck: I can't help reading and trying to disentangle Jo's 'clues' but don't you reckon they end up frustrating rather than helping?

Remember Dumbledore said that 7 was the most powerful number so that is why it would compel voldemort to make 6 (1 in body) to equal 7

That's what bugs me.
Voldemort doesn't know that Harry is after the lot of them,
but he does know that the diary has been destroyed.
That drops it down to six.

Also, how did RAB find out about the horcruxes, and
how could he know without Voldemort knowing that he knew?

Im with you;
I find it really hard to believe that your connection/relationship to the 'soul' can be so alienated. It seems to defy the very notion of 'soul' by any understanding. Whether that is that the soul is a person's 'spirit', consciousness or conscience, 'soul' should react more on your conduct and understanding rather than your physical nature.
So Voldy WANTED to make 7 horcruxes but if Harrys killing them off what's to stop him making more?? Why stop at 7?

psyduck: excellent point. If Voldy knew Harry had destroyed the diary AND Slugworth was at Hoggers, don't you think -shouldn't Dumby have known- that Voldy knew his horcruxes were in danger?? Don't we have to assume that Voldy would have gone to check on the horcruxes??

I agree with everything you just said!

Didn't Dumbledore say something about Voldy being too alienated from being a human being with an intact soul to feel when a horcrux was destroyed?

Do you think the locket in the cabinet in the fifth book is the horcrux? I reckon so. That would probably mean RAB is Reggie Black. Unless Kreacher went with someone else to get the horcrux, stole it when they died and kept it, hoping to return it to Voldy. But Kreacher wouldn't go with a good guy if they weren't family, would he?
Thoughts???

We really need to know more about horcrux's, how they're made, how they're destroyed and if they can fight, talk and be like Voldemort. Then we can theorize better.

Are we down two or three?

Riddle's diary was destroyed, as was Slytherin's ring.
Remaining are the locket, the cup, Nagini
and the ONE Mystery (maybe Riddle's trophy).

I still want to know why didn't the piece in Voldemort
die the night he tried to kill baby Harry? Or did it?



Maybe Voldemort can't split himself indefinately.
Maybe what he has left is a half of a half of a half
of a half of a half of a half of a soul....