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Well they are good theorys but again I must agree with everyone else. Filch can't do magic there is ...

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Old 01-06-2007, 09:37 PM
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Well they are good theorys but again I must agree with everyone else. Filch can't do magic there is no way he could find the chain in the water. You said that he could pick up magic after being at the school so but he wouldn't be able to preform it. I think J.K.R developed his charactor pretty well and as far as need. I don't think J.K.R would make it him, he doesn't have enough guts to tell Voldomort (sp) that he doesn't care about him finding this because by the time he(vold) finds out he'll be dead. It is pretty much clear the Vold. knows who R.A.B is. It sounds as though R.A.B new Vold. Personaly. Besides if filch found the cave and locket then he would have told Dumbledore asking for protection. It is possible that Sirius's brother is R.A.B. I mean all the signs are there. There are many clues/things that could point to that. I doubt its bones. It doesn't seem like bones was planning on dieing anytime soon and thats why a death eater seems the most possible person. We don't want to underestimate j.k.r she does like to through in twist. I'm not completely sure she would make it that clear who R.a.b is. It could also be a Charactor only briefly mentioned in a book. J.K.R. has had the major details of the books planned sence she worte the first one so she could have easily through in something about another charactor who we never gave a thought about. I guess we all will just have to wait and see but that won't stop us from guessing I suppose.




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How about Bode from the ministry
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You mean as a guess for who RAB is? What's the full name?
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Okay my run down on R.A.B.

I agree J.K. usually isn't obvious ... but R.A.B. makes sense to be Regulus Black.

Recently rereading the 5th book it makes a lot of sense. Obviously the quote from page 116 "also a heavy locket that none of them could open" seems to scream horcrux. It is probably the least obvious scene in any of the books. They're cleaning and J.K. focuses more on the metal contraption crawling up Harry's arm and the music box. I have little doubt in my mind that locket is the horcrux.

I guess the question a lot of people are asking is why would Regulus have it. The note left in the locket is not one of protection or admiration. It's revenge. Whoever wrote it wants Voldemort to die. Why would Regulus want Voldemort dead? Well considering the fact that Voldemort ended up giving the word to kill Regulus there could be the assumption that he somehow knew he was going to be killed, OR Voldemort may have found out that Regulus intended on destroying the horcruxes. Once again though that theory brings us back to why Regulus would want Voldemort dead.

Assuming Regulus knew he was going to be killed, that's pretty self-explanatory in my book. I would want to get revenge on someone who planned to kill me too. But if there was another reason, why then?

The Black family was all about pureblood. That's why they supported Voldemort. However, many of us realize a) Voldemort himself was not pureblood and b) Voldemort was only after power ... obtaining a pureblood wizarding society was more of a way to cope with his own tragic childhood and neglectful pureblood father. Sirius points out on 112 regarding the pureblood family's following Voldemort "They weren't alone either, there were quite a few people, before Voldemort showed his true colors."

How did Regulus get the locket? This question came up in another thread and I found one explanation that made a lot of sense. He took Kreacher with him. He forced Kreacher to drink it, which could also explain why Kreacher has certain mental disabilities. Now I'm sure there are a million possibilities to this scenario. The Kreacher one just made the most sense to me.

Although Regulus seems to obvious to be R.A.B. my certainty that the locket they find on 116 is the horcrux leads me to believe that it had to be Regulus. Then again this is why J.K. is such a great writer, I wouldn't put it past her to put a red herring in a book ahead of time just to throw off crazy conspiracy theorists like myself. The final question though is ... where is the locket now?

I have two possible yet vague places the locket could be both involving Kreacher. "Several times, Kreacher sidled into the room and attempted to smuggle things away under his loincloth, muttering horrible curses every time they caught him." Now people will throw this away right away saying he was never successful, but those words were never written. He attempted, there were probably times he succeeded and times he failed. In either case that starts my premise to the location of the locket.

The easy route. Kreacher still has it in Number Twelve, Grimmauld Place.

The difficult route. When Kreacher left to see Bellatrix Lestrange he took it with him, meaning Voldemort once again has posession.

I'm always open to new theories as long as they make sense ... plus a good argument always makes you think harder haha. With that being said, poke holes in my theory.
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I also believe Regus Black to be the simplest answer but when has Rowling ever made the answer to the most interesting questions the simplest answer. There is far much more to the story than anyone could just guess honestly
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I agree with Werns although maybe Mundungus stole the locket and a)still has it or b) sold it. I also like the idea of it being someone other that Regulus but I really believe it is him. I think he got in too deep with Voldemort and decided he wanted out but by then it was too late. I think Voldemort entrusted each Horcrux to a different (well trusted) Death Eater and instructed them on how and where to hide and protect it. I don't know if he actually gave one to Regulus but if he didn't, maybe Regulus overheard him telling another DE what to do. Then Regulus took Kreacher to steal the Horcrux and try and defeat LV.
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Oh, something I forgot. I don't think LV told the DE's that he was givin them a Horcrux. Just a special magical object. And he probably made them perform an Unbreakable or something along those lines to ensure they never told anyone about these 'objects'.
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brilliant theory.. but I'm going to have to go with the black being RAB... I think that if filch did anything like that or anything magical at all.. he would have left something more.. he would have been soo stoked that he actually did something he would have thrown a party there or something like that... but brilliant theory... but I just dont think its im... sry
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Good one.
That ties in with Lucius having the diary.
Except that he didn't die for giving it away.
Still, this theory could work.
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