Snape Is Not Voldemort's Man

In regards to the statement about Dumbledore committing "suicide" - Dumbledore knew that he was in mortal danger. The fact that he did not prevent Snape from killing him is not suicide, it was a sacrifice. BIG difference.

Oh yes. In regards to Snape being in love with Lily, someone mentioned that they did not think that likely becaus he referred to her as a "mudblood" and was mean to her when she tried to come to his rescue. The thing is, I do not think that Snape wanted to be in love with Lily. I think when he acted this way, he was trying to resist how he felt about her, or maybe his feelings did not develop until later, after reflecting on how nice it was to have someone stick up for you, or upon his admiration of her potion skills. Let's also remember that when Harry saw bits of Snape's childhood in the pensieve, it was awful. Anyone raised in those kind of conditions would not be equipped with any kind of proper social skills.

Thanks to Aberforth for logically deducing that Snape's distress over the Potters' murders could very well be becuase of his feelings for Lily.

Sorry I can't just let this idea go. It's the romantic in me.

I know. I'm a genius aren't I

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No difference.
Glorifying suicide in a children's book makes no sense.

No difference.
Glorifying suicide in a children's book makes no sense.
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Psyduck!

There is a HUGE difference between suicide and sacrifice!

Suicide is done out of either selfishness and \ or cowardice (outside of mental illness).

Sacrifice is done out of courage and caring about others

Lily sacrificed herself for Harry! She was neither being selfish nor a coward! But she was very courageous and definately cared whether Harry died or not!

The Monumental difference in the two is that suicide is taking ones own life, and Sacrfice is giving it to someone else! In one you kill yourself and in the other someone or something you are not in control of kills you!

Really big differences in my opinion!

TeenLeigh is correct. There is a significant difference between suicide and sacrifice.

The thing is, I think that's irrelevant here as I don't think Dumbledore did either. I don't believe Dumbledore is dead of course, but even if he were, if Dumbledore could have prevented his death, he would have. There's no reason for him to sacrifice himself. It accomplishes nothing.

It would make as much sense to say that jumping in front of a train is not suicide.
There's no comparison to what Lily did.
You cheapen what she did by playing with it that way.

You're not making much sense. Nobody's playing anything anyway. They were just differentiating between suicide and sacrifice.

Lily did not consciously plan for anything. She was just defending her baby.
A lot of people (myself NOT included) are calling it a sacrifice, but that was not her intention.
She was not thinking about herself at all.

Dumbledore was planning on whatever happened at least a year in advance.
If he was in fact planning his own actual death there's no difference between that and suicide.
It would be pointless and would make no sense.

Also, if the "murder" was not a fraud, any Death Eater could have done it.
Snape need not have been involved at all and could have preserved his status as a spy.

Of course that's sacrifice. She knew she was putting herself at serious risk by placing herself between Voldemort and Harry. If that's not sacrifice, what is?