Dumbledore And Snapes Secret

teddylupin · #11 (**permalink**) 11-10-2007, 11:31 PM

*Shrugs* You didn't address any of my the points I was trying to make Psy, but even then- Severus was never one of the leading candidates for the "healthy" category. He can't really be comapred to normal people and emotional/behavioral standards.

Psyduck · #12 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 12:15 AM

Sorry. I didn't see posts 8 & 9, from Elmoro and you. I don't know why. I was just responding to Gingobibble.

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Severus/Lily I am comfortable with because I can see it from the Marauder-era timeline, in which it makes a great deal more sense than when viewed from Harry's perspective.

I have no idea what this means.

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In addition, I felt this pairing, even one-sided, was alluded to throughout the series- here is proof. Decently accurate prediction from 2005, and that certainly wasn't the earliest the idea was out there.

I can see that now, but it doesn't make it any less gross.

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...If JKR had tried to pin a 20 year love on any other character, it would have "creepy" and "patchetic" but really, that love, however obsesssive, is part of Severus' character.

It still didn't work.

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Heathcliff, from Wutherinng Heights... Severus is the HP version of Heathcliff as far as love goes...

I never got around to that one. I have a feeling I wouldn't like it.

This whole topic is giving me flashbacks.
In my misspent youth, I often tried to be nice to people who weren't very popular. I wasn't flirting -- just being polite and letting pathetic loosers talk. Drug addicts, derelicts... And I was always surprised when they imagined a relationship that never existed. Oops, I did it again.

It wasn't flattering. You have one, single conversation with an incredibly lonley person and a month later he comes back with a full-blown fantasy and a serious marriage proposal... (shudders) ...excuse me, I think I need to go and drown myself in the shower for a few days...

(I may be old and decrepit now, but I used to be hot.)

teddylupin · #13 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 12:49 AM

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Sorry. I didn't see posts 8 & 9, from Elmoro and you. I don't know why. I was just responding to Gingobibble.
I have no idea what this means.

I can see that now, but it doesn't make it any less gross.

It still didn't work.

I never got around to that one. I have a feeling I wouldn't like it.

This whole topic is giving me flashbacks.
In my misspent youth, I often tried to be nice to people who weren't very popular. I wasn't flirting -- just being polite and letting pathetic loosers talk. Drug addicts, derelicts... And I was always surprised when they imagined a relationship that never existed. Oops, I did it again.

It wasn't flattering. You have one, single conversation with an incredibly lonley person and a month later he comes back with a full-blown fantasy and a serious marriage proposal... (shudders) ...excuse me, I think I need to go and drown myself in the shower for a few days...

(I may be old and decrepit now, but I used to be hot.)

*Stares for a few seconds, then breaks into uncontrollable laughter*.
I meant that if you think about those memories of Severus when he still really young, a student, and you work forwards in time for there instead of backwards, from the Marauders' Hogwarts time to the present, everything seems more likely.
Well, I for one have adjusted to the idea. It didn't feel as though, out of nowhere, this was just sprung on us, which was sometimes the case. Romances with buildup rarely feel gross to me- only rarely incompatable.
At the risk of sounding like a shrink, I think part of your dislike of the pairing has a lot to with your own experiences with romance similar, but unpleasant.
Still: ROFLMAO.

XD

wallflower1127 · #14 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 02:05 PM

This is the most damn fun I have had in weeks. LOL and tearing up--Teddy, miss and adore you, little friend. Even the snarkiest of us have a soft spot.

You are so right about Heathcliff. I agree wholeheartedly. That tortured soul is a staple in classic literature and I think JKR nailed that one!!

wallflower1127 · #15 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 02:22 PM

Yes, double posting, so sue me.

Black Hand Gang--I am curious about your screen name. Am I wrong that this Serbian group included the assassins of Archduke Ferdinand, effectively setting in motion the First World War?

If I am mistaken, kindly disregard--not bothering to look it up. If not, interesting choice!!!

shirlincairns · #16 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 05:08 AM

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I always hated that theory because it's just plain stupid. The idea of carrying a torch for that long is a fairy tale.
In real life, it would be beyond pathetic.

I think some people find love ONCE in a lifetime. It is not unreasonable to think that If we found someone that was so compatible to us and we believed them to be perfect (adoration)...that all other subsequent relationships would pale by comparison and therefore be much less satisfying.

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Real people don't do it unless they're very, very sick.

Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles (He never stopped loving this women and he could have had anyone)

Elizabeth Taylor and Sir Richard Burton x3 (after 5 other marriages she kept going back to the same man who, she said was her true love)

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Someone that sick can not be trusted

It's not sick ....it's ROMANCE .....

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That whole part of the story still creeps me out

* joins teddy on the floor * ROLFMAO !!! what'sa matter ...don't ya like the kissy kissy ???

shirlincairns · #17 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 05:18 AM

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He didn't waste his life away. He had other women, but they never meant as much.

Are you referring to the showdown in book 7 when voldy shrugs off Harry?Because Voldy says ;" He (Snape) said there were plenty of others more worthy of him"

....one could assume he did go out with other's ... but I think he just said that to throw Voldy off his scent as he pined after Lilly ...perhaps trying to find someone but never finding anyone like her. Come to think of it ..I have met many single adult men and women who have said they have never found the right person for them

shirlincairns · #18 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 05:24 AM

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This is the most damn fun I have had in weeks

You are so right about Heathcliff. I agree wholeheartedly. That tortured soul is a staple in classic literature and I think JKR nailed that one!!

*HAHAHAHAH ROLFMAO wf*

Hmmmmm ....Heathcliff and Julie ...now there's a sick and tortured relationship. It was all WRONG. Every ideal love is supposed to be was perverted here. MISERABLE!

wallflower1127 · #19 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 10:06 AM

What did I miss? Who is Julie? Shirl, what is wf? Isit what we say as WTF without the the? LOL

I think if you mean Cathy and Heathcliff, I think there are as many relationships out there like that as the ideal. Maybe Lilly wasn't always as perfect as she appears, and played head games with Severus, or hurt him purposely every once in a while in a very Cathy-like way. Let's just say she did, and Severus--Like Heathcliff--cared anyway. That type of relationship is destined to end tragically.

You had to see it coming!~!

shirlincairns · #20 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 03:22 AM

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What did I miss? Who is Julie? Shirl, what is wf? Isit what we say as WTF without the the? LOL

OOOPSSSS !!!! wf = wallflower lol hahahahaha not WTH or WTF

And of course ...Cathy ...in Wuthering Heights ...what was I thinkin ?

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