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I dpnt know one thing or the other....

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Old 06-17-2005, 03:22 AM
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I dpnt know one thing or the other.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Rita@Jun 15 2005, 03:59 PM
Why would Snape put the memory in the pensive in the first place? If he doesn't forget them, and he doesn't want anyone to see them, then why doesn't he just keep them in his head?
Dumb explains that it helps when you've got so many thoughts whirrring around in your brain, that it's easier to syphon some off into the Penseive. I still don't see how this works though.

I know the feeling of your thoughts wizzzing so fast and in endless circles so that it feels like you can't make sense of anything. I don't understand how popping a few memories/thoughts into a basin is gonna help though. Wouldn't you be too concerned how the 'syphoned memories' would 'relate' to the thoughts in your head (even if they are TOTALLY unrelated) to actually get on with your thinking?; like, these memories would become just something else/ one more concern to throw into the mix, rather than easing the pressure. I dunno, I think the Penseive is a glorified diary.

What if the Penseive is like a diary but better: Not only do you get to remember the thoughts/ images EXACTLY the way that they happened, close to the time that they happened (ie, not tainted by time) but you pull them out of your head for posterity (ie, others can see what happened just as YOU saw it - a subjective video camera).
What do yopu reckon????

Is the Penseive like a video diary?
Do you still have thoughts and memories in your head even when you've 'syphoned' them into the Penseive? / What does 'syphoning' mean?
I really like weezam's idea that the thoughts in a Penseive are 'sharper'/ more important than the ones in your head so you don't extract or 'syphon' your thoughts/ memories but more 'dim' them from your thought process by placing them in the Penceive. (Have I read you right weezem???) What do you think???

Thoughts/ You are MY Penseive!:
If you could get rid of all your memories- good or bad- , your whole personality would change surely??? Therfeore the Penseive's just about duplicating important memories to replay them and try to find some kinda connection between them when they are whirring about and not making sense... Yeah ??? ie. The Penseive does NOT RID the person fo their memories just duplicates them. K, so what was Snape doing 'Penseivin' ' those awful child abuse memories??
What did those memories have to do with anyhting that was going on/ what were they connected to??
Who's Snape's parents?
Are these memories signifivant or are we just meant to feel soory for Snape/ buyttrering us up for some sypathetic disclosure later ?
maybe, buttering us up for Snape and Harry reconciliation????
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Old 06-21-2005, 05:34 PM
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i think it was an explimation to why snape hates harry
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:41 PM
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suprime witvh: Why's that?? Are you suggesting that Snape thinks Harry's had it/got it SO easy because he had it so hard??? Or that Snape's an embittered bully because he was abused as a kid???
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Well, snape is bitter all right. The important part of the viewed pensieve is the parents and the heck they wrought on Snape's life. When you say abused, remember, he was also abused physically by James as well as mentally by his parents
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Old 06-24-2005, 12:08 PM
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snape sometimes believes harry is James so in return snape punishes harry for all jammes did to him ........ like father like son ... you kow what i mean?
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Old 06-26-2005, 07:32 AM
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Well, snape is bitter all right. The important part of the viewed pensieve is the parents and the heck they wrought on Snape's life. When you say abused, remember, he was also abused physically by James as well as mentally by his parents
Ohh, absolutely. I don't think anyone would be willing to justify the bullying by James and Sirius. It was total abuse of Siverus!> No excuses!!! But why did Snape put some memories in the Penseive and not others?? What was the criteria??? Clearly, the criteria wasn't 'pain' 'cause then the child abuse memories would be there.
Did Snape syphon off only memories to do with James??
Why didn't we see the memory when James 'saved' Siverius' life???
What's he hiding about THAT memory??
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Old 06-27-2005, 11:24 AM
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i dont think dumb. wanted harry to know those things ... yet
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:54 AM
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YOu think Dumbledore told Snape what to put in the Penseive??? I never thought of that.
How did Dumb know what was in Snape's mind?
How did Dumb know what Snape remembered, saw and therefore, felt about stuff that happened to him?
I get the impression that Dumb underestimates the hatred Snape had for James and has for HArry. I think Dumb thinks that everyone is as reasonable, mature and knowledgable as he is and this is Dumb's failing.

Are we all suggesting that the way the Members communicate with each other, using a wand, is the Penseive???? It is a way to 'communicate' with the dead, kinda, I suppose....??? Don't think I'd call it communicating though. More 'sharing memories'
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i think harry might get a pensieve so he doesn't have to think about the bad stuff so much
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