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In book six, Dumbledore tells Harry, that with the failure to acquire the D.A.D.A. position, Voldermort cursed ...

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Old 02-26-2006, 08:46 AM
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In book six, Dumbledore tells Harry, that with the failure to acquire the D.A.D.A. position, Voldermort cursed the position, so that ever since, no one has ever held the position more than a single year. So, knowing this, wouldn't there be some particular reason that Dumbledore would give it to Snape? And what would that reason be. In the books we are told that Snape has always desired the DA.D.A position. Why would he? Does he not believe in the curse? Or does he think he can defeat it? It seems very intentional. What reason would there be for intentionally putting (or taking) someone into a cursed position? Is it relevant to the nature of Snape/Dumbledore and the ultimate outcome of the plot?
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Old 02-26-2006, 12:51 PM
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Interesting thought, but I hate to say that I have a way to disprove it.

Dumbledore probably hired Snape because no one else would ever take the job since it's obvious that you'll get killed or something bad will happen to you. And Snape's been wanting that job forever because when it talks about him as a student at Hogwarts, it says that he was REALLY good at Defense Against the Dark Arts. And later on, we know that when he grew up he used what he knew about the subject to work for Voldemort because he's a fru-monkey like that. You get what I'm saying?
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...no one else would ever take the job... ...as a student at Hogwarts...he was REALLY good at Defense Against the Dark Arts...work for Voldemort...[/b]
Sorry, that doesn't answer the main question:

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...Does he not believe in the curse? Or does he think he can defeat it?
...What reason would there be for intentionally putting someone into (or taking) a cursed position? Is it relevant to the nature of Snape/Dumbledore and the ultimate outcome of the plot?[/b]
That has crossed my mind. I don't know why I never said it.
One answer as to why Snape would take it is that he didn't know about the curse. I doubt that Dumbledore ever told anyone before he told Harry. The rumored curse may seem "obvious," but if it was never confirmed, Snape might have shrugged it off.

Why would Dumbledore put him in a cursed position? Well, he has been putting pawns in that spot for a half-century. Maybe, with the big war going on, he expected Snape to hang out more often with Voldemort and his little friends anyway.

A more likely scenerio --- It was part of the big cover game.
Not just the recent plot with Snape & Dumbledore faking the murder,
although that is part of it, but THE BIG COVER GAME.

I've said before, somewhere, that I believe Snape has been faking it all along.
I forget how I said it -- let me go and see if I can find it.
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Yep. It was in "Snape, the Death Stopper."


I've felt for a long time that Snape was faking it. The childish
hostility between James and Snape when they were kids doesn't
add up. He should have grown up and moved on by now.

I'm sure that Snape's carefully cultivated hatred of Harry
is for a purpose. Dumbledore tolerates it because it is a
part of Snape's way of fooling Voldemort. Snape is able to
"shut down those feelings and memories that contradict the lie,"
but that is not enough. Eventually, Voldemort would notice
a blank, stone wall where a person with emotions should be.

Snape needs to fill that blank space with something credible.
I believe that this is what Snape put in the Pensieve during
Occlumency lessons. The one Harry saw was just a cover,
which Snape intended Harry to see.
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Yep. It was in "Snape, the Death Stopper."


I've felt for a long time that Snape was faking it. The childish
hostility between James and Snape when they were kids doesn't
add up. He should have grown up and moved on by now.

I'm sure that Snape's carefully cultivated hatred of Harry
is for a purpose. Dumbledore tolerates it because it is a
part of Snape's way of fooling Voldemort. Snape is able to
"shut down those feelings and memories that contradict the lie,"
but that is not enough. Eventually, Voldemort would notice
a blank, stone wall where a person with emotions should be.

Snape needs to fill that blank space with something credible.
I believe that this is what Snape put in the Pensieve during
Occlumency lessons. The one Harry saw was just a cover,
which Snape intended Harry to see.
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Nice thoughts there, psyduck. I guess I wonder what the bottom line is. It seems to spell out to me that Dumbledore knew that Snape wouldn't be at Hogwarts any longer and that is why he chose this time to appoint him, probably knowingly in this position. What's fun is surmising what it could be. You have a theory that Snape has been faking his hostility all along. Interesting. I'm not sure I buy that, buy I enjoy hearing others thoughts.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:36 AM
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...Interesting. I'm not sure I buy that, buy I enjoy hearing others thoughts.[/b]
That's pretty much how it goes around here and why I like this place.
Wouldn't be much point if we all agreed.
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Yeah, no offense to either of you, but i still think you might be calculating it way out of proportion. Snape is definitely the type to hold a huge grudge for so long, I can see him doing it till the end of time!!! But I still like your thinking Psyduck, it does make sense.
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Yeah, no offense to either of you, but i still think you might be calculating it way out of proportion. Snape is definitely the type to hold a huge grudge for so long, I can see him doing it till the end of time!!! But I still like your thinking Psyduck, it does make sense.
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I still have not made up my mind about Snape. I just think something isn't the way it appears and the D.A.D.A appointment is something that confirms that thought for me. It is a big questionmark for me, and I am surprised I haven't seen it addressed before.
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You do bring up a VERY good point, and I agree, I'm surprised no one else has addressed it. Nice job!
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I like that theory, Psyduck. Snape pretending all along... it's sort of a stretch, but still a good theory. We all know how Jo likes to shock us, so I just may buy into it.
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