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Overall, the Prince would have to be someone of half-blood (well, duh), and someone who would either have, or ...

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Old 09-10-2004, 01:13 PM
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Overall, the Prince would have to be someone of half-blood (well, duh), and someone who would either have, or be able to be easily worked into, a large role in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, being that Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince was a working title for the second book in the series. Finally, JK Rowling herself stated that it is neither Voldemort nor Harry who is the Prince.

Rubeus Hagrid: Hagrid is my favorite bet for Half-Blood Prince. Being one of, if not the major character in Chamber of Secrets aside from Harry himself, he certainly fills the role of being the subject for the title of the book. Also, from the information that we have been given in the books, Hagrid is the only character that we know of who actually is a Half-Blood Prince! Hagrid was born to a wizard (his father) and Queen Fridwulfa of the Giants, technically making him Half-Blooded (as he's half human) and a Prince (being that his mother was a Queen). He is by far one of the most mysterious characters in the series, and only as we learn more about him do we realize exactly the awkward position he has in life. As he has gone back to the Giants in order to gain their support against Voldemort, it is more than possible that there will be a large future plot revolving around his struggle (and even the struggle of Grawp, the giant which he 'saved' in Order of the Phoenix) with the Giants and with the Giant within himself. There are any number of plot-lines that could be seen from this, maybe Hagrid goes back to lead a tribe of giants? Maybe he adopts more and keeps them in the forest, teaching them English and proper table manners? The possibilities are endless.

Albus Dumbledore: While Hagrid is by far the front-runner in my view, Albus Dumbledore is also another character that could be the Half-Blood Prince. Despite the fact that he is also one of the most pivotal and main characters, we know very little about the Headmaster, really. What we do know is that he has a brother, Albeforth, who has magical abilities (being that he performed improper charms on goats). This is important because it has never been revealed whether or not what “blood” Dumbledore comes from. My guess is that he is half-blooded (his father being the muggle and his mother being a witch), based on the fact that he has a magical sibling (it would seem against the odds to have two muggle-borns in the same family) and that the surname 'Dumbledore' has never been attributed to any other character in the modern wizarding world (in the way that the 'Prewett', 'Bones', etc. have been). He certainly has a role in Chamber of Secrets that only makes the reader ask more questions about him. How did he get Fawkes in the first place? How did he come across Godric Gryffindor's sword? Also, wouldn't it be rather like JK Rowling to have a Prince be over one hundred-fifty years old? Things tend to defy expectation in the wizarding world, no?

All of the other half-blooded students (such as Dean Thomas according to JKRowling.com, Justin Flitch-Fletchley, etc) all stand the same chance of being the Prince, each as non-scrupulous as the next. It would seem unlikely that JK Rowling would bring very minor characters into the very center of a book without a grace period (such as Neville always being around, and then being a central character in Order of the Phoenix).

Finally, all pure-blooded people (arguably everyone in Slytherin) such as Neville, Draco, Arthur Weasley, etc. are to be excluded because obviously, their pure-blooded.






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i'm not too sure about this, but on mugglenet(i think) it said that the hb prince would be someone completely new.someone who we have never heard of before.the story wouldn't be so interesting if it was a character we know a bit about already.with hagrid i doubt there is a chance he could be hbp.he is a half-blood but is he a prince? where does it say that his mother was queen of the giants? that would mean grawp would be a prince too since he is hagrid's brother so hagrid must be rulerd out as a possibility-unfortunately.and dumbledore, well we know minimal about him.that would make it a good plot if he was hbp.but honestly, the reasons for havin Fawkes are unknown to all of us.his knowledge about the sword could only point to him as being a relation to the gryffindor heritage.if he is halfblood and his mother was the witch it would make perfect sense.godric was way into educating muggles with magical talent, so it wouldn't be strange if dumbledore's mother married a muggle to keep the line of wizards growing, even if they turned out halfbloods.godric didn't care about the blood of a wizard or witch so he wouldn't mind having halfblood relatives.but haryy is probably the true heir of gryffindor and that rules out that dumbledore being the hbp coz harry has no living relatives thru his dad and that would mean he and dumbledore were related.we'll just have to wait for the book to come out and find out for ourselves what is cutting.
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i'm not too sure about this, but on mugglenet(i think) it said that the hb prince would be someone completely new.someone who we have never heard of before.the story wouldn't be so interesting if it was a character we know a bit about already.with hagrid i doubt there is a chance he could be hbp.he is a half-blood but is he a prince? where does it say that his mother was queen of the giants? that would mean grawp would be a prince too since he is hagrid's brother so hagrid must be rulerd out as a possibility-unfortunately.and dumbledore, well we know minimal about him.that would make it a good plot if he was hbp.but honestly, the reasons for havin Fawkes are unknown to all of us.his knowledge about the sword could only point to him as being a relation to the gryffindor heritage.if he is halfblood and his mother was the witch it would make perfect sense.godric was way into educating muggles with magical talent, so it wouldn't be strange if dumbledore's mother married a muggle to keep the line of wizards growing, even if they turned out halfbloods.godric didn't care about the blood of a wizard or witch so he wouldn't mind having halfblood relatives.but haryy is probably the true heir of gryffindor and that rules out that dumbledore being the hbp coz harry has no living relatives thru his dad and that would mean he and dumbledore were related.we'll just have to wait for the book to come out and find out for ourselves what is cutting.
Hey guys, this may be dumb,l but from what you just said, i thought of awierd idea. what if fawks was the HPB? I know that is wired, but we don't really know much about him.
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umm how can a bird be a prince.
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it sounds crazy i agree but thats what jk is good for, throwing spanners into the works.but he can't be the hbp if you think about it.the hbp wud have to be somebody able to hold a wand if he was to be any role in the fight between good and evil.and if he was an animagus that wud mean that he wud be an illegal one coz there have only been 7 in the century that haryy is alive in-the 20th coz remember it was 1992 in the second book(reference to nearly headless nick's deathday party.).and hermione wud have realized when she researched on the animagus that a phoenix wud be strange.but point is, dumbledore prb only had him for the time he was headmaster and thats 50 years so that rules out the animagus story.but i'm not getting my hopes up on the theories floatin about incase they are used and the story is spoiled or if they aren't and then i feel bummed that the story didn't play out according to what i hoped.so its final, i'll wait for the book(but i'll still post) :P
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waiting for the book would be the best answer then well c who's been spreading false rumors.
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well it's actually fun to try to figure the book out by ourselves
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umm how can a bird be a prince.
I don't know, but it would be funny, now wouldn't it!
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Originally posted by Malekai@Sep 20 2004, 09:35 AM
it sounds crazy i agree but thats what jk is good for, throwing spanners into the works.but he can't be the hbp if you think about it.the hbp wud have to be somebody able to hold a wand if he was to be any role in the fight between good and evil.and if he was an animagus that wud mean that he wud be an illegal one coz there have only been 7 in the century that haryy is alive in-the 20th coz remember it was 1992 in the second book(reference to nearly headless nick's deathday party.).and hermione wud have realized when she researched on the animagus that a phoenix wud be strange.but point is, dumbledore prb only had him for the time he was headmaster and thats 50 years so that rules out the animagus story.but i'm not getting my hopes up on the theories floatin about incase they are used and the story is spoiled or if they aren't and then i feel bummed that the story didn't play out according to what i hoped.so its final, i'll wait for the book(but i'll still post) :P
I didn't think about the holding the wand part! LOL!
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You know what I didn't notice when I read the book, and the thing posted above the first time, is that Hagrid's mom was queen of the giants. But, now that we mentioned that, it seems like the is very, very likely to be the HBP.
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