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i hate Umbridge she is an evil teacher she made harry write i will not tell lies with his own ...

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Old 06-11-2006, 09:36 AM
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i hate Umbridge she is an evil teacher she made harry write i will not tell lies with his own blood.

But is it possible that she is a nice person but she was just being evil on Fudge's orders? Could she come in and help harry in the last book?
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Old 06-11-2006, 05:00 PM
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Nah.
People like that don't like to be proven wrong.
She made a complete fool of herself, and Harry was her main witness.
She won't forgive him.
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well, i think ur right that umbrige may be nice, but i dont think that harry would ever forgive her for all the things that she made him do. so, i dont think, even if she wanted to, harry wouldnt let her help him.
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No, Umbridge is evil!!!
Fudge didn't give her the orders to send those dementors, or put Harry through those detentions. Those were her own sick deeds.
She is one twisted woman.
I really, truly hope she dies a painful death...
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:18 PM
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No Umbridge won't turn out nice.

But Fudge is eviler! :P
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No Umbridge won't turn out nice. But Fudge is eviler! [/b]
No, he's not!
He was just in deep, deep, deep denial.

He chose to believe that Dumbledore and company were plotting
against him rather than believe... the unthinkable.

Ok, that's no excuse, but you can't compare him to Umbridge.
He was never sadistic. (Trelawney, Hagrid...)
And never consciously dishonest. (sending dementors...)
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Old 08-23-2006, 10:51 PM
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Harry let Umbridge help him! That's a laugh! Think about it in book 6 when Scrimgeour told Harry that Umbridge had been telling them at the ministry that Harry wanted to be an auror. It was implicit that she was suddenly for him, even though the previous year she had vowed and declared that the ministry would never have him as an auror. I think Harry would drop his ideas of becoming an auror if it came down to her helping him.
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I think that Harry would rather eat buckbeak than allow Umbridge to help him become an auror, besides he doesn't need help to do that! lol!
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I don't remember that part. Where was it?

I don't see the idea of Umbridge helping Harry as so terrible. He's not so petty. And the big issue at the moment pushes everything into perspective. I would never trust Umbridge with anything important, simply because she is a fool and likely to mess it up. But to do something out of spite? She's not that important. Harry has bigger things to worry about.

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Old 08-25-2006, 04:01 AM
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Yah, and Umbridge would be to afraid to help him the fight against Voldy. I mean she seamed scaired of Grawp and the centaurs.
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