Severus Snape for Sainthood.

shirlincairns · #11 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gingobibble

Chapter 13 - Nicolas Flamel - book one.
Snape suddenly takes an interest in Quidditch and wants to referee the match. The first Quidditch match Snape saved Harry from Quirrell & Voldie.

I would suggest Snape chose to referee the match to protect Harry from any other potential attacks. Easier to patrol the match & crowd from the Umpire's broom.

further in that chapter -
'Harry seemed to keep running into Snape wherever he went. At times, he even wondered whether Snape was following him, trying to catch him on his own.'

further evidence of Snape protecting Harry. constantly ensuring that Harry is safe.

Or..... Snape still living in the shadows of James Potter .... dogs him relentlessly, because he thinks Harry's going to CAUSE trouble and he's going to catch him at it.

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Originally Posted by Gingobibble

During the match Harry caught the snitch in record time. Could Snape have ensured the snitch was easily catchable... ? Thus, ensuring a quick match, and removing Harry from the vulnerable position of being up in the air?

No ....Harry is the youngest seeker of the century. He caught the snitch on merit a fitting reward for 11 years of misery and derision ...Instant Stardom !

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Originally Posted by Gingobibble

the final bit of that chapter. Snape & Quirrell have a confrontation in the forest. Snape gives Quirrell the ultimatum that 'we'll have another little chat soon, when you've had time to think things over and decided where your loyalties lie.

I forgot ...why was that again...Quirrell was complaining about his mark burning ???? actually Snape not knowing Quirell's secret put himself into some peril here which could have brought his downfall how did he get out of it?

Gingobibble · #12 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 02:46 AM

Quirrell later confirms that Snape becoming referee interfered with his plans to take out Harry during a Quidditch match.

Snape also suspected Quirrell ever since the 'troll' incident. I think Snape would have had some idea what he was up against. - perhaps not the voldemort 'parasite' within Quirrell's body... but I think Snape would have seen (in his past) plenty of people acting on Voldemorts orders... if anyone were to recognise those signs and behavioural traits - I think Snape would have been one of them.

ekin · #13 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 05:50 PM

ok but snape says later in HBP that he didnt that he stopped voldemort when he stopped quirrel so death to snape yes he died i got what i wanted

Psyduck · #14 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 11:45 PM

Snape was a bright boy. We knew that. He was also abusive and creepy in the extreme, and remained so throughout the series. Ok, he turned out to be a weird kind of hero. But the idea of him pining over and stalking Lily still just makes me want to barf.

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Originally Posted by Gingobibble

...Snape also suspected Quirrell ever since the 'troll' incident. I think Snape would have had some idea what he was up against. - perhaps not the voldemort 'parasite' within Quirrell's body... but I think Snape would have seen (in his past) plenty of people acting on Voldemorts orders... if anyone were to recognise those signs and behavioural traits - I think Snape would have been one of them.

I never thought about it in that way but, now that you mention it, yes, he probably had a clue.

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Originally Posted by ekin

ok but Snape says later in HBP that he didn’t, that he stopped voldemort when he stopped quirrel…

I presume you’re referring to Spinner’s End. He was talking to Bellatrix. The best lies are mostly truth, with just a subtle twist. In that scene, we have no way of knowing which part was true.

ekin · #15 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 08:05 PM

i think that we know that know one new voldemort was back so... and anyways how would snape know that he was back just bnot enough evidence i dont know i just think snape was key character who did a great thing in the end but i think snape was selfish and i have said that a 34875893450634705634780 times and i think that if voldemort doesnt kill lily snape is still supporting him so i have little to no respect for snapes character and he got what he deserved

Gingobibble · #16 (**permalink**) 11-02-2007, 12:28 AM

Snape half-heard the prophecy and he told Voldemort.
Voldemort chose the Potters instead of the Longbottoms.
Snape wasn't always bad either. He adored Lily from the day he first saw her. I think being in Slytherin helped turn Snape into a 'bad guy'.
If he had been placed in any of the other houses...

but - his love for Lily - helped to bring him back... love - redeemed his actions and loyalties.

it's a great message from JRK I think

ekin · #17 (**permalink**) 11-02-2007, 05:24 PM

love did not redeem his actions in my opinion it makes him worse that he was selfish and jealous and how JKR made harry lobbying to have have the portrait of snape up and albus severus= bs no one drops a grudge like that and Snape was playing both sides i think i mean which ever side he saw start gaining momentum he woukld go to

Becca21 · #18 (**permalink**) 11-20-2007, 07:04 PM

Hmmm not sure Snape woulda gone to whichever side had the upper hand but I def agree that if Lily hadn't had died he'd still be Voldemort's man. He couldn't have cared less that LV wanted Harry dead. Or that he killed James for no reason. He wasn't loyal to anyone except Lily. And I also agree that Harry (or at least Hermione) woulda been intelligent enough to realise that!
I think it woulda been so much better if Snape had TRULY been loyal to DD!!! Just my opinion!

Knowitall101 · #19 (**permalink**) 11-27-2007, 08:48 AM

i think we shoul have him knighted by the queen, he deserves it!

ekin · #20 (**permalink**) 11-27-2007, 08:51 PM

ahahahahhahahahaha snape a knight i thought sir paul mcartney was funny

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