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Just curious. if Tom Riddle (the future Voldemort) was a Muggle-born, they why was he so "anti-Muggles & ...

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Just curious. if Tom Riddle (the future Voldemort) was a Muggle-born, they why was he so "anti-Muggles & Muggle-borns??" I think maybe it mentioned something about this in one of the later books, but I'm not quite sure. What's your opinion?
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TMR wasn't a Muggleborn, techincally, he was a Half-Blood. He was raised as a Muggle, in a Muggle orphanage, but he thought his father had to be a wizard. He grew up in an atmosphere that probably skewed his view of Muggles for his entire life, because the orphanage was not a welcoming or nurturing place- he even asked if it was possible he stay at Hogwarts over the summer instead of at the orphanage.
Once he found out that he was descended from Slytherin, he most likely became obsessed with the idea of continuing his ancestor's legacy as well as exacting his own revenge.
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sorry, that's what I meant, half-blood, not Muggle-born. I couldn't remember which one it was.
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TMR wasn't a Muggleborn, techincally, he was a Half-Blood. He was raised as a Muggle, in a Muggle orphanage, but he thought his father had to be a wizard. He grew up in an atmosphere that probably skewed his view of Muggles for his entire life, because the orphanage was not a welcoming or nurturing place- he even asked if it was possible he stay at Hogwarts over the summer instead of at the orphanage.
Once he found out that he was descended from Slytherin, he most likely became obsessed with the idea of continuing his ancestor's legacy as well as exacting his own revenge.
I partly agree and partly disagree. I agree with the last paragraph.

However, I think Riddle really started to hate muggles after he found out that his muggle father had left his mother, an heir of Slytherin, to die a very lonely and miserable death. Off course the orphanage scarred him, but not as much.
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His muggle father left his pureblood mother. (unforgivable really)
Perhaps he thought that only muggles have this weakness of character - to run when something goes wrong.
Perhaps he thought that if his father had also been a pureblood - his parents would have stayed together.

I think this would have been the crucial childhood theory that would have driven Voldie throughout his muggle annihilation crusade.
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Well, I have to say I doubt Voldemort ever considered a lack of love to be a stronger motivation than personal glory, venegance, and power.
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Well, I have to say I doubt Voldemort ever considered a lack of love to be a stronger motivation than personal glory, venegance, and power.
his mentality was unable to value love. Having never received it - he didn't understand it or seek it, unless, in his ignorant mind, power was love.
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his mentality was unable to value love. Having never received it - he didn't understand it or seek it, unless, in his ignorant mind, power was love.
Yes, which is why I doubt that Voldemort hated Muggles because his father had left his mother, even too die, or that he secretly wished to have a whole family.
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Just curious. if Tom Riddle (the future Voldemort) was a Muggle-born, they why was he so "anti-Muggles & Muggle-borns??" I think maybe it mentioned something about this in one of the later books, but I'm not quite sure. What's your opinion?
I am sure that it has been brought up already but here goes
He hated his dad for not going to get him.
he told DD that his mom coudlen't be a witch becouse she died. right
then he finds out that she was a witch and hates daddy right there
is that ok
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Well, I have to say I doubt Voldemort ever considered a lack of love to be a stronger motivation than personal glory, venegance, and power.
who seeks power above all else?
people who have a void to fill. Having never felt love or a true sense of family - the only thing that would have helped Voldemort define himself would be being 'good' at something. being able to have 'power' over something or someone.

he may not have recognised it was lack of 'love, humanity and nurturing' - the power hungry rarely recognise this 'lack' in themselves. but I think this lack of 'belonging' - until he got to Hogwarts.... was the single formative idea that drove him to be the best, most glorious, most feared, most powerful, most famous wizard of all time (atleast in his own mind)
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