Chapter Eleven - The Bribe (spoiler)

I think it's Lupin.
Imperius curse, traitor, I don't know what.
Something is wrong.
Something's been wrong all along.
Page 204, where Lupin "proves" that it's really him --
That's all common knowledge. Snape, at least, knows all of that.
Harry didn't really ask him anything.
The argument that made Lupin leave --
Something is wrong with this picture.

And what does the chapter title mean, anyway?
What bribe?

good questions that you ask. I've been thinking about my ideas for a little while now.

I'm not sure 'bribe' is the right word. But, isn't a bribe something you give to someone to get them to do something they may not necessarily want to do.

It is clear Lupin didn't want to be married to Tonks, (for whatever noble reason). He was (I think) dragged into it. Any relationship, where one party has to be dragged into it... or convinced to take part... it can't be easy.

The climate for werewolves wouldn't have been good. The animosity and rejection of people associating with Werewolves also would have made it difficult. I suppose like the Jews in Nazi Germany. It would be hard to have someone you care for be subjected to 'discrimination' that you - and you alone - are responsible for.

I perhaps thought 'bribe' related to the gift they gave to Kreacher, but that isn't even in that chapter.

I agree, - Lupin did not seem like himself at all. But, I don't think he has been himself for a long time. There wasn't much evidence of Book3 Lupin in books 6 & 7 (or so it seemed to me).

i know what you mean about lupin not being himself since the third book, especially because he had become the kind of character who you rely on for protection of everyone else, and wherever his name is mentioned, things were sure to work out fine.

as for the way harry asked him, i suppose something about the curse put on grimmauld place could tell if it were the real snape, after all.. later on in the book you discover he was in the house anyway.. crying over lily's picture where he took the second half of the letter.

all the same it was a very good book, i was expecting more about teddy lupin however!

I'll have to go back and look at the chapter to figure out the bribe element.

As for the fight between Lupin and Harry, that really ticked me off. When are you going to grow up Harry? At that point in my reading I was dissappointed that Harry wasn't dead by the next chapter

Bit harsh, he was only thinking of the baby and his outburst made lupin see sense in the end shame teddy still had to grow up not knowing either parents just like harry

I think Lupin needed reminding that all his family (Tonks and the baby) really needed was his love and support. He wasn't making good decisions at that point. You should never be concerned with what others are saying--only what you yourself feel. Yes, he wanted to protect Dora.....if the situation had not been so tense, perhaps he could have found more joy in his married life. I am glad that Harry made him see sense so that he was able to be happy for a short time prior to his demise.
AHacker

I think Harry was so aggressive with Lupin also, because Harry felt a connection with the child. Having grown up without parents... and seeing Lupin (a great parental figure) choose to not be around his child...
I agreed with Harry's assessment of Lupin. even though it was blunt.

I thought there was already a thread on this, but I can't find it.

The bribe seems hidden, but I've got a theory now that I'm rereading.

Kreacher comes back with Mundungus and Mundungus tells the story about the locket -- A certain toad-faced ministry official comes up and threatens him. Threatens to fine him, but she takes the locket in return for not fining him. So Mundungus giving the locket to Umbridge in return for not fining him is the bribe.

While I think that's a chincy bribe, it would qualify. AND it is huge because it gets the locket into Umbridge's hands.

I have not responded to this because (bows head in shame) I don't even remember anything or mention of a bribe! I have reread bits - guess I need to reread more.

Oh don't hang your head missy elf, I didn't either until I started rereading it through in it's entirety.

Thanks for responding. I started another thread yesterday about wanting to put stickies in my book that's still hanging there