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As I was looking at rumors for Harry Potter book 7 I saw that there seemed to be a lot ...

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Old 07-20-2006, 08:33 AM
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As I was looking at rumors for Harry Potter book 7 I saw that there seemed to be a lot of evidence pointing to Harry being Godric Gryffindor's heir. In some ways I think that this would make sence.

Feel free to add to the evidence on Gryffindor's heir.
Tell me what you think.

The evidence:

1) When Harry goes to Ollivanders Harry's wand shoots out jets of red and gold sparks which are the colors of Gryffindor House. (Coinsidence-I don't think so)

2) Harry lived in Godric's Hollow when he was born.

3) "Only a true Gryffindor could have pulled it out" was what Dumbledore said after Harry pulled out Gryffindor's Sword from the sorting hat. (Could there be a double-meaning to this statement)

4) I think that Harry was born on July 31st, but maybe that was Neville, but under the Zodiac Callender Harry's sign would be Leo. (Which is a lion and the Gryffindor mascot is a lion)

5) In the Chamber of Secrets the gems on the sword were red, which could mean they were rubies. (The birthstone for July is a Ruby)

6) If Harry is Godric Gryffindor's heir that would explain the confusion of the sorting hat. Harry would have Gryffindor blood and Slytherin blood, since Voldemort transferred parts of him to Harry. (This one and the 3rd one really got me thinking about the whole heir thing)

7) James Potter inherited a load of money and Gryffindor was said to be rich. It is possible that the money James inherited was Gryffindor's fortune. (Interesting)

I found most of these on various places on the Internet but I did find 2 of them myself.
Tell me what you think and if you can add more to my evidence.



P.S. I am very sorry if this has been discussed before, but I didn't see anything so went on and posted. lol
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Old 07-21-2006, 04:24 AM
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I like it and it does make a lot of sense. I have had a bit of hunch myself that Harry might be Gryffindor's heir, and for most of the reasons you mention. A lot of things seem to point that way.
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Old 07-21-2006, 07:00 AM
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Yeah, with that many things in favor of him being the Heir it seems unlikely that this is all a coincidence, but I may be mistaken.
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So far, it's not working for me.

1) Harry's wand shoots red and gold sparks -- there's only so many colors.
2) Harry lived in Godric's Hollow when he was born? I thought they moved to the new house when they were hiding from Voldemort.
3) "Only a true Gryffindor could have pulled it out." Weak, but ok. You can keep that one.
4) I don't share a birthday with any of my ancestors. I still believe that they are my ancestors. I think. If we don't share a birthday, does that mean I was adopted after all?
5) Red gems in the sword, July birthstone ruby... It's not working.
6) The confusion of the sorting has been explained. Harry is multi-talented. He had choices. The hat cares about talent, not blood.
7) Gryffindor's fortune -- intact, after a thousand years? Not likely.

Why is being the "Heir of Griffindor" important? Would he get to open a secret room full of treasure or talk to exotic animals?

I'm spoiled.
After being blown away by the Ron = Dumbledore theory, I'm not so easily impressed. http://www.knight2king.net/Knight2Ki...isourking.html
No, Ron can not be Dumbledore, for a few simple reasons
(Aberforth, "Things with his wand" during exams) but the evidence is staggering.
Absolutely not an accident. JKR is saying something, I just don't know what.
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Why is being the "Heir of Griffindor" important? Would he get to open a secret room full of treasure or talk to exotic animals?[/b]
I don't know why it would be important I just thought that it was really interesting.

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2) Harry lived in Godric's Hollow when he was born? I thought they moved to the new house when they were hiding from Voldemort.[/b]
I meant to put when he was a baby, but I was just thinking born instead.




I knew that would find some way to destroy my evidence! :P
I didn't really ever think that it mattered I just thought that there seemed to be a lot of coincidences, ya kno.
Oh well.
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3) "Only a true Gryffindor could have pulled it out" was what Dumbledore said after Harry pulled out Gryffindor's Sword from the sorting hat. (Could there be a double-meaning to this statement)

7) James Potter inherited a load of money and Gryffindor was said to be rich. It is possible that the money James inherited was Gryffindor's fortune. (Interesting)
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These are the two most interesting to me. All of the others can easily be chalked up to Harry being a Gryffindor in the house sense and not in the bloodline sense, although it does add to the overall possibility of it. I had never thought of the second as a possibility and it is a good potential answer to an element that has been bothering me. The first has been on my mind for some time. It always felt like a double meaning to me which would make sense as there is already a pun in the "pulling that out of the hat" part.

Psyduck- Good point about the fortune, although it would not have necessarily dried up especially considering that Gryffindor himself could have had his money in Gringots (sp?) which would be a very different experience than us. Do we know how old the bank is?
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Why is being the "Heir of Griffindor" important?[/b]
Because it would be so fitting for Harry to be the heir of Gryffindor when Voldemort is the heir of Slytherin. I'm not saying it is definitely the case, it would just be poetic.
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After being blown away by the Ron = Dumbledore theory, I'm not so easily impressed. http://www.knight2king.net/Knight2Ki...isourking.html
No, Ron can not be Dumbledore, for a few simple reasons
(Aberforth, "Things with his wand" during exams) but the evidence is staggering.
Absolutely not an accident. JKR is saying something, I just don't know what.
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Is there another thread on this? What other reasons? And what do you mean by the "Things with his wand" thing?
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Could Rowling be suggesting a relationship between Dumbledore and Ron? How do we know that DD hasn't been married and had kids (he's 150, his wife didn't have to live that long)? Maybe one of his kids's descendents were Arthur or Molly.
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Could Rowling be suggesting a relationship between Dumbledore and Ron? How do we know that DD hasn't been married and had kids (he's 150, his wife didn't have to live that long)? Maybe one of his kids's descendents were Arthur or Molly.
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Wow. I never thought of that before. Although I don't know why Molly or Arthur wouldn't know this, so I doubt it, but it's an interesting idea nonetheless.
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Very good point, and surely since Sirius was related to Molly and Arthur by marriage etc, he would have mentioned where Dumbledore fit into the family when they were looking at the Black Family history. Even if DD wasn't on there it would have been something for him to mention.
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Well, maybeJK is saying something else that has nothing to do with him and Ron being related. Maybe Ron powerful wizard potential or something, ya kno.

Well, I guess not that would be more likely to happen to Harry or Hermione than Ron, but you never know. lol
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