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Actually, it was back in January. "This says Dumbledore slowed down his fall on his own."[/b] Subtle ...

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Actually, it was back in January.

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"This says Dumbledore slowed down his fall on his own."[/b]
Subtle distinction.
I doubt that it was my original idea anyway. Still, it's not new.

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If Snape went back in time he would be seen.
Unless Snape used some charm that made him invisible...[/b]
Ah, a reasonable question.

For one thing, it was dark, late, and everyone was in bed. The only activity was between the Room of Requirement and the Tower. And either of them could have whipped up some kind of illusion or something. These are the big boys. Not an issue.

For another, Snape and Dumbledore belonged there at that time. In the unlikely even that someone was wandering around and bumped into either of them, it would not have made much of an impression. Unless the someone happened by at the precice moment -- which didn't happen.

But anyway, about Dumbledore catching himself:
I may seem to have played-down Dumbledore's weakness at that moment, but I wouldn't go that far. Back in the third book, when Dumbledore was perfectly healthy, he couldn't stop Harry completely -- Harry still got knocked out.

It doesn't seem likely.
(1) We do not know that he could use that trick on himself at all.
(2) Dumbledore's weakness at that moment would have made such a spell more difficult.
(3) Dumbledore's weakness at that moment would have made the impact more devistating.
(4) Dumbledore was an old man anyway.

I still think Snape had to do the catching. If not from below with the time-turner, then from above with a non-verbal spell.

Although, that's a lot to do in such a short time, even for Snape. The fake "Avada Kadavera," with the necessary special effects, the non-verbal spell he actually used, releasing Harry from the freezing charm AND catching Dumbledore and levitating him gently to the ground, while conversing with the Death Eaters on the tower, snatching Draco, running through the door... That's one busy boy. What we need, as Dumbledore would say, is more TIME.
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go 2 dumbledoreisnotdead.com

it has a lot of info
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I agree with you that Dumbledore's fall could have been slowed down using that spell. However someone else would have had to use the spell, as Dumbledore didn't have his wand. Unforunately this places a third person in the equation, someone who was in on Dumbledore's plan.
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maybe...............draco?
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We're talking about the big boys, here. Snape and Dumbledore know a lot of tricks, like the Drought of Living Death, how to disapperate within Hogwarts, how to become invisable without a cloak, how to fake a death and hide people ("He cannot kill you if you are already dead")

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HP-5, page 614, "Oho!" said Fudge, bouncing up and down on the balls of his feet again. "Yes, do let's hear the latest cock-and-bull story... Or is there the usual simple explanation involving a reversal of time, a dead man coming back to life, and a couple of invisible dementors?" [/b]
See the threads, "The Astronomy Tower" and "Snape The Death Stopper" in the "Divination for Book VII" section

Snape helped to fake Dumbledore's Death. He pretended to use the Avada Kedavera" curse.
Then he turned his time back a few minutes, went outside below the tower, and caught Dumbledore as he fell.
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HP-1, page 137, Snape spoke of "...the beauty of the softly simmering cauldron with its shimmering fumes, the delicate power of liquids that creep through human veins, bewitching the mind, ensnaring the senses... I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- If you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach." He also mentioned that "...asphodel and wormwood make a sleeping potion so powerful it is known as the Drought of Living Death. A bezoar is a stone taken from the stomach of a goat and it will save you from most poisons."

HP-6, page 591, "He cannot kill you if you are already dead. Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine. What is more, I can send members of the Order to your mother tonight to hide her likewwise. Nobody would be surprised that you had died in your attempt to kill me -- forgive me, but Lord Voldemort probably expects it. Nor would the Death Eaters be surprised that we had captured and killed your mother -- it is what they would do themselves, after all. Your father is safe at the moment in Azkaban... When the time comes, we can protect him too. Come over to the right side, Draco... you are not a killer..." [/b]
In the sixth book, pg 377, Harry remembered Snape's first lecture
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