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Ok, so I was over at the MuggleNet forums and somebody mentioned in passing that Aberforth Dumbledore was present when ...

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Old 09-28-2006, 10:53 PM
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Ok, so I was over at the MuggleNet forums and somebody mentioned in passing that Aberforth Dumbledore was present when Harry caught Mundungus “selling” Sirius’ stuff in Half-Blood Prince. I must have missed this the first time through, so I went back and read the passage. A few things about the passage struck me as quite odd, and I’m wondering if anybody agrees with me.

First there’s Aberforth. The beginning of the passage states: (bold emphasis mine)

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The exceptions were two men a little ahead of them, standing just outside the Three Broomsticks. One was very tall and thin; squinting through his rain-washed glasses Harry recognized the barman who worked in the other Hogsmeade pub, the Hog’s Head. As Harry, Ron, and Hermione drew closer, the barman drew his cloak more tightly around his neck and walked away, leaving the shorter man to fumble with something in his arms.[/b]
We know that the Hog’s Head barman is Aberforth. He’s obviously meeting Mundungus and when he sees Harry, he immediately takes his leave. What’s more, he draws his cloak around his neck as he does. To hide something? It was cold that day, but it appears that he is trying to hide his neck from Harry and co. Hmm, what could someone have on their neck that they’d try to hide? A locket perhaps? Ok, now skip ahead a few lines. Harry realizes that the stuff falling out of Mundungus’ case is from the Black mansion, and in a rage he pins him to the wall, choking him: (again bold italics mine)

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“Harry, you mustn’t!” shrieked Hermione, as Mundungus started to turn blue.
There was a bang, and Harry felt his hands fly off Mundungus’s throat. Gasping and spluttering, Mundungus seized his fallen case, then — CRACK— he Disapparated.
Harry swore at the top of his voice, spinning on the spot to see where Mundungus had gone.
“COME BACK, YOU THIEVING — !” “There’s no point, Harry.” Tonks had appeared out of nowhere, her mousy hair wet with sleet.
“Mundungus will probably be in London by now. There’s no point yelling.”
“He’s nicked Sirius’s stuff! Nicked it!”
“Yes, but still,” said Tonks, who seemed perfectly untroubled by this piece of information. “You should get out of the cold.”[/b]
Ok, first of all, why did Harry’s hands fly off Mundungus’ throat with a bang? It doesn’t appear that Mundungus has his wand out to do anything about Harry choking him, and it seems if he did he would have stopped Harry choking him before it got to the point where he’s turning blue. It must have been Tonks. Okay, but why? Why would she have allowed Mundungus to get away? I can see her stopping Harry from doing something drastic, but she could have at least gotten close enough to Mundungus to prevent his escape before she did it. And then her exchange with Harry is even more peculiar. She tells Harry that Mundungus will be in London by now and not to yell. How does she know where Mundungus is going? I realize the Order is in London, but there’s no particular reason for him to go there, so why does Tonks say that’s where he’s going when it would’ve made much more sense for her to just say “It’s too late, he’s gone”? She also seems to be pretty keen to get Harry to stop yelling and attracting attention. And then there’s her complete lack of concern that Mundungus is apparently stealing Black family heirlooms (which are her heirlooms too) and selling them to whoever. I realize that she is depressed about her situation with Lupin at this time, but shouldn’t she be just a little upset or angry? I mean, I’ve been depressed before and if anything it sets me on edge and makes my temper a little sharper.

So what, if anything, is going on here? Is it possible that Mundungus is on some mission for the Order? That he’s transferring Black artifacts to others for a reason? Maybe Aberforth is a spy for the Order? Maybe Dumbledore arranged for him to take certain items into safekeeping? But then, Dumbledore seemed to believe that the locket was in the cave. So if it was the locket on Aberforth’s neck, that would indicate that both Mundungus and Aberforth are doing things behind Dumbledore’s back. Could Aberforth be a Death Eater? Or is he just a greedy opportunist like Mundungus? As you can tell, I don’t really have a theory here, it’s just that this passage raises so many questions. I’d like to know what others think of it.
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I just re-read this section recently as well, and it caught my eye, but I didn't know what to make of it either. You have a lot of interesting and plausible thoughts, but I'll have to think more on it.
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Yes, it's very strange.

Some details are no big deal.
Aberforth is a strange character, possibly a petty thief, but I doubt he would be a Death Eater or a member of the Order. It's a small world, especially in wizarding circles. Maybe Aberforth and Mundungus are birds-of-a feather. I don't like the idea of the Locket getting away. They certainly do NOT know its significance. I could easily shrug this scene off if Tonks hadn't stopped by.

The bang is the most mysterious part. And Tonks' reaction was too soon. She should have comiserated for at least a few seconds before thinking about the cold.

No, I don't know what to make of it either.

Maybe it's just letting us know that the Locket is on the move? I don't think so. That's too obscure. We didn't see anything -- not even a chain.
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Yes, it's very strange.

Some details are no big deal.
Aberforth is a strange character, possibly a petty thief, but I doubt he would be a Death Eater or a member of the Order. It's a small world, especially in wizarding circles. Maybe Aberforth and Mundungus are birds-of-a feather. I don't like the idea of the Locket getting away. They certainly do NOT know its significance. I could easily shrug this scene off if Tonks hadn't stopped by.

The bang is the most mysterious part. And Tonks' reaction was too soon. She should have comiserated for at least a few seconds before thinking about the cold.

No, I don't know what to make of it either.

Maybe it's just letting us know that the Locket is on the move? I don't think so. That's too obscure. We didn't see anything -- not even a chain.
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There is no doubt...the locket is on the move. whichever locket. I have a feeling that that locket will lay a BIG part of the next book. Everything (in my eyes) looks like i bases aroud that locket, what's inside it, and whoever R.A.B is.
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What do you mean, "whichever locket"?
Do we have more than one locket to worry about?
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Then again, it could be a red herring. OK, so maybe Aberforth did buy the locket from Mundungus... we don't know. But then it could have been any of the stuff from Sirius's house and who knows however many neck things there might have been in there.
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What do you mean, "whichever locket"?
Do we have more than one locket to worry about?
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Well, there is the locket that made Katie Bell Sick, and there is the Black Family Locket, and there is also the locket from the cave. So in a way-that's three! Bt then again, the one witb katie and the one from the cave COULD be the same locket(i guess).
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If Mundungus had the locket Katie Bell had wouldn't he be hexed too? That is if he physically touched the locket.
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I'm sure McGonagall or Dumbledore or somebody got rid of the cursed opal.
If I had something like that, I would make sure it was destroyed.
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What do you mean, "whichever locket"?
Do we have more than one locket to worry about?
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Well, there is the locket that made Katie Bell Sick, and there is the Black Family Locket, and there is also the locket from the cave. So in a way-that's three! Bt then again, the one witb katie and the one from the cave COULD be the same locket(i guess).
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I'm pretty darn sure what Katie got was simply a necklace, not a locket.
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