Sorry lol. Maybe I should have consulted you before making the poll..we were discussing it together.

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Originally Posted by Psyduck In context, it's obvious that everyone there believed that Draco had failed. They expected him "to die in the attempt," and were proved to be correct.

It is not their belief that matters. What matters is, did Draco actually fail to kill Dumbledore before Snape took charge. What matters is, was Snape bound by his vow because Draco failed, when he fired at Dumbledore - if so Dumbledore is dead. Draco had not left the presence of Dumbledore..and he still had the upper hand. All hope was not lost for Draco to finish the job. JKR has pushed it really hard and the misdirection is well placed..but the facts don't add up if you look closely. Snape intervened before he would be forced by the vow to kill Dumbledore or before anybody else there could ..including Draco.

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Originally Posted by Psyduck Voldemort will not be impressed by your subtle argument. Even if Draco protests that he only needed more time, everyone else will say that he failed. Even Harry --With Voldemort's connection, he could probably add Harry's opinion if he wanted..

I do not care about impressing Voldemort. And it matters little. You stray from the topic with this. Of course Voldemort will think Draco had failed..why else would he think that Snape killed Dumbledore while Draco still had a chance. And I don't think Draco will protest. Only when Snape cursed Dumbledore did it strike Draco that he had failed completely thus invoking Snape's vow. Remember, Snape did have to push Draco out of the way to get to Dumbledore. Voldemort will now only see the death of Dumbledore and be happy. All else, including Draco's failure to all eyes will be inconsequential.

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Originally Posted by Psyduck A half-empty glass would not quench this kind of thirst. And the longer he waited, the weaker his resolve became. It was a glass with a hole in the bottom.

Thank you again for substantiating my cause friend Psyduck. You always know how to say just the right thing..lol. 'And the longer he waited, the weaker his resolve became.' Thank you for agreeing that Draco was still waiting, and his resolve growing weaker - but not yet gone. Its a good thing that Snape acted when he did.